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As I said; I have no problem with the logic of that vewpoint--other than simply not agreeing with it at all.
![]() But considering how people have never swamped newspapers with "shopping at one store and then buying at the discount store down the street is dishonest (or shoplifting)" articles, I have to assume that "...and then buys it online carries some sort of extra unethical ramifications for many people. I find that thinking weird and illogical. |
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When I was looking for a new clothes washer, I went to 3 different brick and mortar stores and looked online as well. I talked to salespeople in every store, and used a lot of resources from Best Buy.com, Amazon.com, and Sears.com. By your logic, I should have just purchased it in the first store that I went to, as anything else would be unethical. Shari |
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No problem. It wasn't you specifically. I just got the impression (from the article and the discussion in general) that the "online" part was somehow integral to (or intensified the degree of) the unethicality of the practice.
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Shopping the B&M competitor (in either brand, style or services), is fair, as they all have similar overheads. Take the example of Shoes. Fashion and Fit Selection may be as much a reason for being dragged to those 20 stores ![]() OTOH Warehouse clerks don't need to spend time repackaging or sorting and re-shelving 'shopper' mixed up product bins. Product leaving the premises without checking out ![]() So in my book, it is stealing employees time, if before entering, you know you will buy online. (There is the Maserati showroom down the block. I don't go in because I will never buy that cla$$ of gorgeous car . I would be stealing many $$ of commission away from the salesman who could not handle a true shopper. I do drool from the public sidewalk ![]() |
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I'm not sure if it's ethical, but buying locally does a lot more for the economy around you than buying online. Who knows, maybe it will become a matter of ethics in time, if jobs keep getting scarcer?
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If I go to a bookstore fully knowing that I won't buy a pbook, neither from them nor from anyone else, this is somewhat different, isn't it? You're still welcome to disagree, of course ![]() |
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How are they loosing a customer then? You were never meant to be one. At best your like a background noise in their shop.
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My whole problem with the ethics debate is that it hinges on the idea that there's some sort of implied social contract that one has to be at least open to the idea of being sold something before one is able to ethically enter a place of business. I know of (nor recognize) any such binding social contract or duty. I will walk into a public place of business and back out of it with any mindset on purchasing/not purchasing that I choose--with my ethics entirely intact.
If and when I walk past a sign that indicates that looky-loos, browsers, and showcasers are not welcome in this establishment (or the proprietor tells me so), then that is the point when my ethics can be questioned by others. Until such time, only my own ethics apply. Last edited by DiapDealer; 04-16-2015 at 01:22 PM. |
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THink the whole ethics debate is a bit skewed.
too take an extreme example of the ethics debate (and doing it OTT) if I need to buy a new car, and I currently feel that a Ford Ka is what I need (and might end up buying it), I'm not allowed (according to my understanding of the arguments made by the ethics side of the debate) to go "shop" around at Opel/Mazda/Fiat, since I would be wasting their time (and a chance of them convincing me otherwise). I've worked retail, and I was told to see each customer that enter our shop as a potential customer. So if someone enters the shop and ask something about our stock, he's not wasting my time, He's giving me an opportunity of convincing him to buy with us I'm bolding this statement as it seems to be missed by the ethics only side. There is no "contract" with a shop to buy something there once you enter a shop. |
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But no matter how you slice it, browsing without buying has nothing to do with ethics. |
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The person who walks into a store with NO intention of buying anything there is still easier to sell something to than the person who never enters the establishment at all.
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So I guess we are all agreed that the article would have at least been on less shaky ground, if it had been discussing browsing and interacting with a salesperson?
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