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Old 06-23-2008, 04:13 PM   #46
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Actually, Abu's post (which as I pointed out is grossly in error) made me think of something that happened in my old neighborhood. The people living right next door to us had a poodle. We had a cat .... a big ol' orange tabby male that took no guff from anyone. He OWNED that neighborhoodl.

He and the poodle were really good friends and you would see them together in the poodle's yard just taking in the sun. Then, people who had a doberman moved in on the other side of the poodle. And, eventually, there came a day when the poodle got through the fence and into the doberman's yard.

It was at that point that the doberman attacked the poodle and began to make a bloody pulp of him. Super cat to the rescue. Out old tabby took on that doberman .... you never saw a faster moving set of teeth and claws ... I ended up running over there simply because I could hear both dogs and my cat screaming at the top of their lungs.

As soon as my cat had the doberman cornered, I was able to get in there, grab the poodle and take him to the vet. The doberman's owners were smart enough not to complain about the damage that was done to their dog.

Cats not loyal?? Guess again.
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Actually, Abu's post (which as I pointed out is grossly in error) made me think of something that happened in my old neighborhood. The people living right next door to us had a poodle. We had a cat .... a big ol' orange tabby male that took no guff from anyone. He OWNED that neighborhoodl.

He and the poodle were really good friends and you would see them together in the poodle's yard just taking in the sun. Then, people who had a doberman moved in on the other side of the poodle. And, eventually, there came a day when the poodle got through the fence and into the doberman's yard.

It was at that point that the doberman attacked the poodle and began to make a bloody pulp of him. Super cat to the rescue. Out old tabby took on that doberman .... you never saw a faster moving set of teeth and claws ... I ended up running over there simply because I could hear both dogs and my cat screaming at the top of their lungs.

As soon as my cat had the doberman cornered, I was able to get in there, grab the poodle and take him to the vet. The doberman's owners were smart enough not to complain about the damage that was done to their dog.

Cats not loyal?? Guess again.
Growing up, we had a cat named Thistle. She was the matriarch of the place. She allowed no dogs (or tom cats) on the place. All the females (including her) had to find their romance somewhere else. One time she chased two large dogs out of our barn. One ran ahead but she was riding the slower one's head, three sets of claws dug in to its head and the other raking its nose. As they ran by, she hopped off with a "See how good I am." look. As you can see, she earned the name Thistle.
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Growing up, we had a cat named Thistle. She was the matriarch of the place. She allowed no dogs (or tom cats) on the place. All the females (including her) had to find their romance somewhere else. One time she chased two large dogs out of our barn. One ran ahead but she was riding the slower one's head, three sets of claws dug in to its head and the other raking its nose. As they ran by, she hopped off with a "See how good I am." look. As you can see, she earned the name Thistle.
I just love a good attack cat.
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What kind of poodle?

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yes exactly, you cannot turn it off !!!!
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Well, there are stories that he is only writing his own nightmares and that he has not even a single room or cab without light. But I dont know if its true

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i think your dog and my cat have an ongoing bet, to see which one of us they can drive completely mad, first.
Quite possible. Try to get the information what they wanted the price to be, perhaps we could pay them off?

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oh my, i did not want *that* thought in my mind...
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that guy wrote that story about me and tirsales.
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the fatal flaw....
Thats why I didnt write it in reality. Its just a fidgment of your imagination
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Quite possible. Try to get the information what they wanted the price to be, perhaps we could pay them off?
how much do you think it would cost ?

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we should sue for copyright infringement !!! dirty pirates !!!! (:irony mark: to the power of infinity, yo, in case that wasn't obvious)

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hey now, you leave my fidgments alone !!!
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how much do you think it would cost ?
I dont know what cats like. Perhaps a small amount of cat-mince and several bones?

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What kind of poodle?
I think they call them "toy" poodles. The cat ("Nug") was a little bigger than the poodle.

I don't know that much about poodles, so I could be wrong. I've only known one other poodle, and that was a standard poodle named "Vogen." Poor thing was hit by a car and left a little .... different.
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I think they call them "toy" poodles. The cat ("Nug") was a little bigger than the poodle.
Okay
A neighbour has a standard poodle (German: Königspudel, literally: King poodle). Regarding his size I was wondering

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Toy poodle could be correct. They are quite small. (German: Zwergpudel, literally: Dwarf poodle)
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A neighbour has a standard poodle (German: Königspudel, literally: King poodle). Regarding his size I was wondering

Toy poodle could be correct. They are quite small. (German: Zwergpudel, literally: Dwarf poodle)
Yes ... I see. I know the word for "king" in German, so I caught that right away, but I did not know the word for dwarf.

I think there is a size that is smaller than toy. They call them "teacup" poodles. Then again, it's possible that the toy and the teacup are one in the same.

I'm not nuts about foo-foo dogs, but I really felt so sorry for that little poodle. It made me proud to know that Nug would go to battle for him. Eh, people who say cats aren't loyal are talking out of their butts.
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I think there is a size that is smaller than toy. They call them "teacup" poodles. Then again, it's possible that the toy and the teacup are one in the same.
If you ask a teacup poodle breeder - no they are not the same breed. If you ask the "official" commissions deciding that sort of thing: Yes they are. Teacup poodles are much smaller then toy poodles (even smaller then the so called "tiny toy poodle"-sub-breed).
I actually like standard poodles (if they are NOT shaved in the typical poodle-like way *shudder*). I dont know the other poodle breeds (having seen them sometimes, but not on a regular base) well enough to judge them.

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Eh, people who say cats aren't loyal are talking out of their butts.
Their are differences in the way a cat views its owner and in the way a dog does. That much is clear. Stating that own of both is better then the other is quite simple .. strange.
Both are - for lack of a better word - nice.

But there is such a great span of "typical" behaviours in both - cats and dogs - depending on breed, training, character, age, etc - it would be hard to even define the typical behaviour of a dog (chosen as example because I know more about dogs then about cats).

Take for example the behaviour of a Czechoslovakian Wolfdog and that of a German Shepherd Dog. Both are large dogs, the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is even a German Shepherd Dog-Hybrid (originally a mix between shepherd and wolf). But their typical behaviour - even their mimic - differs greatly. Whilst e.g. the Shepherd has a very distinct will to please the Wolfdog does not. (Again making broad generalizations). This makes it much harder to train a Wolfdog - if you stick to the book and dont adopt your training and behaviour to the dog. If you do - both are just fine.
Now add e.g. a Pyrenaen shepherd or an Australian Shepherd (not that they are so similar) and you get a third "kind of dog". And all three breeds show different kinds of loyalty - and I would rely on all three.

The same is true for cats.
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If you ask a teacup poodle breeder - no they are not the same breed. If you ask the "official" commissions deciding that sort of thing: Yes they are. Teacup poodles are much smaller then toy poodles (even smaller then the so called "tiny toy poodle"-sub-breed).
I actually like standard poodles (if they are NOT shaved in the typical poodle-like way *shudder*). I dont know the other poodle breeds (having seen them sometimes, but not on a regular base) well enough to judge them.



Their are differences in the way a cat views its owner and in the way a dog does. That much is clear. Stating that own of both is better then the other is quite simple .. strange.
Both are - for lack of a better word - nice.

But there is such a great span of "typical" behaviours in both - cats and dogs - depending on breed, training, character, age, etc - it would be hard to even define the typical behaviour of a dog (chosen as example because I know more about dogs then about cats).

Take for example the behaviour of a Czechoslovakian Wolfdog and that of a German Shepherd Dog. Both are large dogs, the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is even a German Shepherd Dog-Hybrid (originally a mix between shepherd and wolf). But their typical behaviour - even their mimic - differs greatly. Whilst e.g. the Shepherd has a very distinct will to please the Wolfdog does not. (Again making broad generalizations). This makes it much harder to train a Wolfdog - if you stick to the book and dont adopt your training and behaviour to the dog. If you do - both are just fine.
Now add e.g. a Pyrenaen shepherd or an Australian Shepherd (not that they are so similar) and you get a third "kind of dog". And all three breeds show different kinds of loyalty - and I would rely on all three.

The same is true for cats.
Huh .... my two dogs are the result of a German Shepherd - Wolf mix mating with an Akita - Chow mix. They are freaking impossible to train. They are sweet, friendly, and very lively dogs, smart too .... they just could not give a flying fandango if what they are doing pleases a human or not.

On the other hand, back when I had my cat, Newton, .... you could not ask for a more loyal friend. There was a period I was so sick ... three or four days, when I could barely drag myself out of bed.

Newton just stayed there with me. Left me only long enough to grab a bit of water and hit the litter box. Otherwise, he just stayed with me and purred at me until I felt better.

He also had a habit of meeting my neighbors at their front doors in the morning and walking them to their cars. That was how people found out I was sick ... they started to wonder why Newton wasn't there in the morning, and came over to check on him after about two days of not seeing him.

Man, I miss him.

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Huh .... my two dogs are the result of a German Shepherd - Wolf mix mating with an Akita - Chow mix. They are freaking impossible to train. They are sweet, friendly, and very lively dogs, smart too .... they just could not give a flying fandango if what they are doing pleases a human or not.
Thats actually a very cool mix. I'd love to meat them in reality.

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Newton just stayed there with me. Left me only long enough to grab a bit of water and hit the litter box. Otherwise, he just stayed with me and purred at me until I felt better.
Animals have a way of purring (or similar) that just cuts worrys away. I dont know how they do it.

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They are nice
Do they like to swim?
My mother had a dog (I was a child then) that loved to swim. You just couldnt get on an inflatable mattress out on the sea, because he would try to pull the mattress back to the shore. Once he actually sunk my mattress
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Man, those dogs look serious! Did they drop their car keys in the water and now have to feel them out?
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They dont look serious, they look beautiful!

Has it been a hot day and they wanted to have the normal dog-drink? Walking slowly trough the water sipping all the time?
Or perhaps they needed their car keys to get back into the acclimatized car?
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