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Hmm...this is tough one.
Here's a quote on the case from judge Cote, the judge who reviewed all the court evidence: "In this straightforward price-fixing case, no further showing is required." But anonymous Internet forum poster pwalker8 says this is not a price fixing case. Who's opinion to trust? Hmm, tough one... Last edited by ApK; 06-16-2014 at 10:22 AM. |
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The internal emails about the price points are part of the public record. As are the ones about forcing Random House to support ibooks or be blocked from the appstore and the ones about using indigo/kobo as coordinator in Canada. Those aren't blog posts, they are validated court evidence. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-16-2014 at 12:36 PM. |
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Yes but but anonymous internet posters have said that Judge Cote actually reads the pretrial evidence and opinions before she goes to court and draws conclusions on the presented facts prior to going to the trial phase. She then apparently has the audacity to disregard trial testimony (and clever lawyer spin) that doesn't align with the pretrial evidence. According to internet lore this suspicious preparation is known as 'bias'.
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The price fixing did cause harm to some of the eBook sellers. Plain and simple. So they should sue and they should win.
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Not a guarantee even in a case as apparently clear as this. They need to be very precise in tying the proven antitrust violation to the damages suffered. |
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I don't think the rewards stuff was a hold up as both had always had some titles not eligible for rebates/rewards. All they had to do was agree to no rewards on those titles. The sites did have to do some work to facilitate collecting sales tax for states outside their home locations though (there are thousands when adding in not just state, but county & municipality for some areas). Last edited by AnemicOak; 06-16-2014 at 02:29 PM. |
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Why do you believe those lawyers?
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Those lawyers have made up their mind before all Judge Cote's reasoning is presented and ignore or wave aside anything that doesn't agree with that conclusion.
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Because they actually had experience dealing with Judge Cote? Because Judge Cote wrote a majority of her opinion the the Apple case before the trial actually started? Because Judge Cote's comments in the case indicated that she was dismissing or ignoring evidence that didn't agree with what she went into the case believing? Because, there are a lot of judges like that in the legal system? There are a lot of reasons that I find the lawyers comments believable. As I said, we will see how the appeals turn out.
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Hum, looks like Apple is settling on the class action lawsuit. It will be interesting to see the amount. The plaintiffs were asking for $840 M. My guess is that the amount will be in the low enough to "pay just to make it go away" which is standard in these type of class action suits. The lawyers will get rich and that's pretty much the purpose of the suits.
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Stupid Apple! Why don't they continue fighting? After all, they did nothing wrong
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Even the full $840M is noise to Apple: it's about half a percent of their mighty cash stash. And, BTW, if it's the consumer class action suit, it won't be just the lawyers that see money; that one has 30 state AGs looking for political advantage so they will make sure there is some consumer-level payout and not just ibooks coupons. The retailer suits, now combined, are a different story. That one can be settled for the low 7-8 figure confidential payouts more typical of court-mail cases. Last edited by fjtorres; 06-17-2014 at 06:34 AM. |
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