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The new user interface is still the same as far as Kindle eBooks go. You have to go to Amazon to get the eBook as it is Amazon's server serving it. |
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01-08-2013, 11:09 PM | #47 |
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I have never hacked the Kindle. Everything I do is with the stock unaltered device. As for "fooling around with Javascript," this is a simple on-off switch that is part of the Amazon-provided user interface.
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01-09-2013, 12:02 AM | #48 |
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01-09-2013, 06:27 AM | #49 |
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You've missed the point. eReaders like the Kobo Touch or Glo, Nook Simple Touch, or the many other ePub eReaders out there, can't directly fetch eBooks from the libraries. The Kindle was pointed out as the exception for exactly that reason: the Kindle can download books without a computer because the books do not come from a third party (Overdrive), but from Amazon's servers. And it is just that fact that makes some publishers uncomfortable. Why they care, I don't know. Bits are bits, and most people generally don't care which Internet IP address the bits came from, as long as they can read the content without risk of a virus.
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01-09-2013, 07:01 AM | #50 | |
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Bits are bits and licenses are licenses and nowhere in the contracts does it state that accessing the library ebooks has to be unnecessarily cumbersome. And the fact that both the Overdrive app and the Sony readers achieve a similarly frictionless process is proof that the allegedly frictionless access is not the issue but another smokescreen. The tantrum is simply over Amazon being able to not only offer their users a path to library ebooks but a path with richer features (once you get the ebook) than the competition. Think about it; how are the publishers *ever* going to kill Amazon if they keep matching and improving on the competition? Library ebooks used to be a competitive advantage (on paper) for ADEPT-based eReaders; now it is either neutral or slightly negative depending on how frictionless the access offered it. That is the reason for all the gnashing. |
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01-09-2013, 10:49 AM | #51 |
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Is the root cause of the lack of availability the unwillingness of libraries to pay the price set by the publisher?
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01-09-2013, 10:51 AM | #52 | |
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Of course, we can change the statement to read... One cannot borrow eBooks from Overdrive for an eInk Kindle without the use of another device be it a tablet, smartphone, computer or some other similar device. |
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01-09-2013, 10:59 AM | #53 |
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The libraries are buying a lot of the books available even at some of the super high prices being asked. Some of the big publishers however don't feel the current system works at any price. They want it to be harder to borrow an eBook than it currently is. They say there isn't enough "friction" in the transaction in the way that with a pBook you have to drive to the library and check out the book and then drive back and return it. Some publishers favor a system where they get a cut every time a book is borrowed which is pretty much not doable for the libraries.
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01-09-2013, 11:16 AM | #54 |
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MacMillan, Hachette, and Simon & Schuster do not allow libraries to access their ebooks at any price. Penguin pulled out of Overdrive a year ago and supposedly will offer some of their titles with 3M, although as far as I can tell that's not really happening.
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01-09-2013, 11:52 AM | #55 |
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Which you know isn't correct, as it has already been pointed out to you in post 43.
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01-09-2013, 11:55 AM | #56 | |
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It's certainly not true to say that the Sony (or the Kindle) are the only devices that support wireless downloading of library books. Onyx readers have supported it for a very long time. |
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01-09-2013, 02:02 PM | #58 |
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This just doesn't make any sense to me at all. The ebook is either for sale or it isn't. The publisher or author has no say in who can or cannot purchase it. The library should simply purchase the product from wherever and loan it out as usual.
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01-09-2013, 02:06 PM | #59 |
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01-09-2013, 02:42 PM | #60 |
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There is no "loan it out as usual" when it comes to ebooks. Never has been. Should they go ahead and strip the DRM off before they start loaning them out? We want libraries to thrive, not be slapped with injunctions by publishers.
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