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+1, Stonetools.
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The internet was built to be open, with the belief that the sharing of information is RIGHT. Internet 2.0 could go either way of course, built to be closed or open. |
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The uses of Internet has changed over the time and it is now a space for the public to interact and to do business. |
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Thanks. Here is an interesting poll:
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LINK I suspect that the "spokesperson" and his supporters are in the three per cent. |
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EDIT: Nevermind I can see for myself that they did just that. Quote:
"Do you think online piracy and online identity theft are a problem?" "Do you think online piracy and online stalking of minors by pedophiles is a problem?" "Do you think it's important to strengthen laws against online piracy and online stalking of minors by pedophiles?" Talk about stacking the deck. ![]() |
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Well, maybe you're right about stacking-except if piracy sites typically offer both pirated content AND counterfeit drugs. I don't know: I avoid such sites .
Still, the poll is strong evidence that the public isn't OK with online piracy and wants something done. The current Administration certainly sees it as a problem, even while opposing SOPA. Quote:
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The designer of the net on purpose designed in some principles that have been extremely good for the invention of new things. It is these principles that now are threatened. |
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Censorship=damage=rerouting time. The internet was built that way--not specifically to fight censorship, but to route around dropped carriers, bad code loops, and overloaded servers. "Data didn't get through; try another method" is what made digital business possible; one cannot simultaneously support that approach and try to block it. Quote:
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But real-world comparisons with physical piracy are lacking an essential detail: Real-world pirates are directly interfering with commercial activity, and therefore have reason to stay near the most profitable routes. Internet "pirates" have no interest in participating directly with commercial media activity, and have no reason to spend time in populated areas. Instead, the "pirates" spend time in obscure niches of the internet... until the public finds them and demands they hand over their loot--an interesting inverse from real-world piracy. Internet "pirates" who hoard are never found; it's only the ones who share openly who are at risk. This is why digital piracy will never go away. Shutting down Megaupload and various torrent sites only cuts down on the leeches. |
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Finally some discussion of the substance! Thanks to Stonetools for putting another view. And to DiapDealer and murraypaul for their posts about the Poll referred to. It reminds me of Sir Humphrey demonstrating to Bernard in an episode of Yes Prime Minister how such Polls in fact work. It ends with Sir Humphrey complementing Bernard on being "the perfect balanced sample" after he gave contradictory answers in quick succession to the same questions. And finally to Elfwreck for pointing out the flaws in the analogy with physical piracy and the Atlantic.
A point which I would like to make is that the law itself is brought into contempt by ridiculous and unworkable laws which are born of a lack of understanding by Politicians (or possibly cynical politicians wishing to appear to be doing something whilst knowing damn well it is fruitless). The technology at the moment is beyond the effective control of governments, and they hate it. Some of the legislation being proposed brings to mind Gandhi's salt march, or King Canute issuing commands to the tide. And the price for attempting such legislation is paid in loss of freedoms and privacy. |
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