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Old 12-06-2011, 03:14 PM   #46
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In so far that all companies want to 'brainwash' consumers, yes.

They market their products exceptionally well but, if the products didn't perform, they wouldn't be as successful as they are.
Tell that to Monster Cable.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:23 PM   #47
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What's the beef with Monster Cable?
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:35 PM   #48
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What's the beef with Monster Cable?
10x the cost - no measurable performance improvement.
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:00 PM   #49
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What's the beef with Monster Cable?

Check:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=546405

http://damon4.com/Default.aspx?blogentryid=21

http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/17/h...ore-customers/

http://gizmodo.com/268788/the-truth-...keep-upusually
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:14 PM   #50
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Tell that to Monster Cable.
Or Bose. Both Monster Cable and Bose are monuments to intentionally poor engineering, but outstanding marketing leading to overwhelming market share.

Basically, it's not always the 'best', or even adequate, product/company that makes the most money.
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Y'all do realize Jobs is dead, right? I think insanity stops increasing at the grave.
Well duh, but Apple is still under his reality distortion field because all of these lawsuits were filed when he was alive and they were what he wanted. He absolutely with his entire being hated Android and stated that he would spend all 40 billion dollars of Apples money to destroy it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:03 PM   #52
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Evidence? Specifically that a.) 'creativity' is almost non-existent in China and b.) that this is due to lack of 'real patent- and copyright protection.'
Now this I can make real easy for you. Name 5 innovative products DESIGNED in China by Chinese? You might name Hanlin 920, but for that one the innovation took place overseas, at E-Ink in Taiwan, not in China. I have been to China hundreds of times, can speak and read Chinese and even I cannot come up with five examples.

Chinese products have a long history of a being a race to the low end of the price range. Take a walk through Chinese malls, except for the expensive imported items all the local stuff is just "me-too". There is no innovation (even hardly any new design for garments or shoes), and why should anyone go through the trouble and expense of developing something when, as soon as the goods hit the store, the first copy products appear? Companies like Adidas have seen copies of their designs hit the stores before they themselves did (local companies paid Adidas employees to smuggle out the designs during development).

No copyright and no patent protection sort of does make sense for dirt poor countries. Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan all started out this way. But they reach the point --- like China does now, when they need to upgrade, when they need to promote innovation, because they cannot just compete on price anymore as costs are too high. But for even half developed countries without these protections there is only a race to produce at the lowest price, at the expense of jobs in developed countries, of course. When making dirt cheap products, who can afford to pay good wages? How can you create any value beyond production cost without them?
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:46 AM   #53
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If these patents were so wonderful then why didn't everybody take action immediately they were "infringed" rather than wait until vast numbers of products were in the marketplace... the ridiculousness of the patents claimed by all of these companies relates to the way they are handled. Your core wireless tech patent hasn't suddenly become key to anything, it was actionable from the moment it was granted but nobody took action at that time... frankly any patent that isn't defended from Day One (when infringement is known) should be deemed to have lapsed... that'd really upset the applecart...
In other words, not immediatelly asking for a fee (which is not true by the way, but let's assume it was) somehow makes patent, that resulted from multimillion R&D investement and is the foundation of the modern wireless standards, ridiculous? But how ridiculous? On the levels of rectangular shape with rounded corner and clear screen, or even more ridiculous?
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:18 AM   #54
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No copyright and no patent protection sort of does make sense for dirt poor countries. Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan all started out this way.
You're forgetting one: Japan.

Japan started exactly like China does now. Creating poor imitations of "good" western products. But Japan has outgrown this and now makes some excellent innovative products. I don't know how or when this shift started, so I've no idea how to apply this to China...

The idea is simple. First, spend money on factories and "steal" good designs. Once the factories are paid for and you've a steady source of income, you can start spending money on designs and innovation. R&D always takes a lot of money...
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:12 AM   #55
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Japan started exactly like China does now. Creating poor imitations of "good" western products. But Japan has outgrown this and now makes some excellent innovative products. I don't know how or when this shift started, so I've no idea how to apply this to China...
Back in the 60's, "Made in Japan" was synonymous with cheap, shoddy merchandise.

Oh, how times have changed. Now they farm out their manufacturing to other countries.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:40 AM   #57
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Now this I can make real easy for you. Name 5 innovative products DESIGNED in China by Chinese? You might name Hanlin 920, but for that one the developed countries, of course. When making dirt cheap products, who can afford to pay good wages? How can you create any value beyond production cost without them?
Maybe not innovative...but how about Papermaking, Gunpowder,The compass, printmaking...

I am sure they will come up with a few more this century....
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Now this I can make real easy for you. Name 5 innovative products DESIGNED in China by Chinese?
I can come up with three right off the top of my head; gunpowder, kites, and noodles. I'm sure if I gave it some thought and research I could find two more.

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Sorry hidari, I posted before reading to the end. You beat me to it obviously.

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