Is the Kindle really such a mediocre reading device? - Page 4

Nyssa · 10-01-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

Hmm.. Random House Webster's had it listed as "naysayer." Anybody got access to the OED?

ETA: "Compound terms are often introduced into the language as separate or hyphenated words, and as they become more commonplace, they tend to fuse into a single word" (American Psychological Association's Publication Manual, pg 90 section 3.11).

So, historically, it was originally nay sayer... then nay-sayer... and now it's turned into naysayer.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The Kindle uses the Oxford Dictionary, and it too has "naysayer" - no hyphen.

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I was thinking of the ginormous, multi-volume OED that gives the history of every word in the English language. I'm curious when the hyphen disappeared.

Very cool!

What i would like to know is if we can get a ginormous multi-volume OED on the Kindle!?!

Oh, Blossom suggested the 1913 (?) Dictionary posted here on MobileRead - to be used for older text with obsolete terms, but it completely killed Cailbre. It took forever trying to open in the book view so I deleted it.

DiapDealer · 10-01-2011, 05:50 PM

One who says nay.
All done.

jermyzy · 10-01-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

Question: when I email a pdf to my Kindle and request that Amazon "convert" the file, is that "reflowing"? Or is reflowing something else entirely?

Sorry, my first Kindle/ereader. So if I had pdf books, is the best/easiest way to upload to my kindle via emailing the file to my amazon account, or with Calibre?

ApK · 10-01-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I was thinking of the ginormous, multi-volume OED that gives the history of every word in the English language. I'm curious when the hyphen disappeared.

ETA: Oh, oops... looks like I've got OED access. So, in 1628, we've got, "A gude asker wald have a gude na sayer." And then in 1721, "A sturdy Beggar should have a stout Naysayer."

But in 1974, "Further to refute the nay-sayers, he cites poll after poll in which Americans say they are happy." But then again in 2000, "Many naysayers‥are trying to showcase the California experience as a dismal failure."

So, it looks like there is no clear consensus.

My second edition OED (micrographic compact edition) lists Nay-say, Nay-sayer, and Nay-saying all as keyword entries with hyphens, though next to the keyword for nay-say, it says "also naysay." In the citations for all of them, as seen above, it seems to list examples with and without hyphens.
Personally, I like the hyphen.

Man, I love the OED. I need to get a better magnifying glass and browse mine more often.

stickybuns · 10-01-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa

Very cool!

What i would like to know is if we can get a ginormous multi-volume OED on the Kindle!?!

Oh, Blossom suggested the 1913 (?) Dictionary posted here on MobileRead - to be used for older text with obsolete terms, but it completely killed Cailbre. It took forever trying to open in the book view so I deleted it.

I know that you can access the OED online if your library has a subscription. No Kindle version just yet.

It's a tad pricey if you won't to purchase a copy of your own: http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-English...3174789&sr=8-2

pidgeon92 · 10-01-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ibex333

Lets put it this way... Kindle is a MAC. And Nook is PC. Nuff said.

I agree. I've never had any issues with my Kindle, or my Macs.

kennyc · 10-01-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

One who says nay.
All done.

Isn't that supposed to be the "Kanighits that say Nay!"

Nyssa · 10-01-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I know that you can access the OED online if your library has a subscription. No Kindle version just yet.

It's a tad pricey if you won't to purchase a copy of your own: http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-English...3174789&sr=8-2

Only $1,232.59? That's chump change...if your name is Oprah!

kennyc · 10-01-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa

Only $1,232.59? That's chump change...if your name is Oprah!

Well I'm planning on winning the lotto tomorrow.

ApK · 10-01-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I know that you can access the OED online if your library has a subscription. No Kindle version just yet.

It's a tad pricey if you won't to purchase a copy of your own: http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-English...3174789&sr=8-2

The micrographic compact edition and the CD ROM version all have the complete text of the full edition and are a lot cheaper.
The compact edition can be found used dirt cheap, but you pretty much need serious magnifying glass to read it.

jgaiser · 10-01-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

The micrographic compact edition and the CD ROM version all have the complete text of the full edition and are a lot cheaper.
The compact edition can be found used dirt cheap, but you pretty much need serious magnifying glass to read it.

There's always the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary in two volumes. I have it, and though it's nowhere near as complete as the OED, it's a very good dictionary.

SteveEisenberg · 10-01-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

As you say, what can such old crocks as us know about computers?

My Dad has you beat since he has been working in the computer field since 1955 and, part-time, continues to do so at age 86.

Latinandgreek · 10-01-2011, 10:52 PM

While I would like to have a kindle as a back-up reader (I do own some books from the Kindle store and read them on my iPad), I have stuck with Sony and plan on getting the newest Sony reader as well. While I understand that many people don't have use for PDF reflow, I do, and it is one of the features that has kept me buying Sony readers. I most often read PDFs on my iPad, but knowing that I can transfer an article to my Sony reader and go know that I can read it on the go if I get some time is great (I don't generally keep my iPad with me in my purse). A small screen isn't the ideal venue to read a PDF, but it is nice to know that I can in a pinch. I read a ton of PDFs, so my needs probably aren't representative of most people's reading needs, though.

Mark Rehorst · 10-02-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

But if it's simple text, it really shouldn't be in PDF format in the first place, of course.

Simple text files are sometimes put into pdf format to prevent most people from tampering with them. For example, pdf is a good file format to use for resumes, especially those that will be posted to web sites.

kennyc · 10-02-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveEisenberg

My Dad has you beat since he has been working in the computer field since 1955 and, part-time, continues to do so at age 86.

You're Dad and I are true Blood Brothers then! Welcome!

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,517 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	One who says nay. All done.

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Latinandgreek Warrior Princess Posts: 5,038 Karma: 9724231 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505; PRS-350, PRS-T1, iPad, Aura HD	While I would like to have a kindle as a back-up reader (I do own some books from the Kindle store and read them on my iPad), I have stuck with Sony and plan on getting the newest Sony reader as well. While I understand that many people don't have use for PDF reflow, I do, and it is one of the features that has kept me buying Sony readers. I most often read PDFs on my iPad, but knowing that I can transfer an article to my Sony reader and go know that I can read it on the go if I get some time is great (I don't generally keep my iPad with me in my purse). A small screen isn't the ideal venue to read a PDF, but it is nice to know that I can in a pinch. I read a ton of PDFs, so my needs probably aren't representative of most people's reading needs, though.

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