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Old 09-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #46
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That certainly is true - but your original statement was more broadly phrased. Still not sure why there's any contention here, really.

On topic, I think that the anti-MS brigade can be just as rabid as the anti-Apple faction. Personally, I've found Apple's restrictions and control-freakery to be occasionally irritating, but on balance a positive thing.
Careful Ben, you may be behaving in a dangerous fashion by actually commenting on the OP...
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Actually, as the original poster in this thread, it was a comment on the incredible bias of certain users of this forum and the net against Apple... and my original thoughts have been borne out in that, despite MS doing the same as Apple with their Metro on tablets and going without Flash, there has been no rush of condemnation like Apple received but a whole series of "rationalisations" & "excuses"as to how MS are perfectly reasonable for doing this as opposed to nasty Apple doing it...
I don't remember Apple announcing a year before the ipad came out that it won't support Flash.
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At the moment I'm considering whether I want to install and try Win 8 out or not....Not sure how well it would suit my old laptop or an old desktop ... Hmmmm...
I have W8 installed on a 7 years old, single x64 AMD core, 2GB RAM laptop. The x64 version was a bit too heavy for it, but the x86 works just fine.
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I have W8 installed on a 7 years old, single x64 AMD core, 2GB RAM laptop. The x64 version was a bit too heavy for it, but the x86 works just fine.
Thanks Tony, I may give it a try.
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Windows 8 will support flash, just not on the Metro side...according to Engadget.
Windows 8 Metro does support Flash. Please, read. It's only the Internet Explorer version for Metro which doesn't.
If different than the Ipad, which system doesn't support Flash at all.

Since it is a Windows OS, in theory, it's possible to install other browsers, like Mozilla or Chrome, and have Flash support. Because the OS allows that.
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That's a personal opinion. I don't find it necessary in the slightest, personally. I do most of my web browsing on my iPhone which is happily "Flash-free".
I agree. I have Flash blocked on my desktop computers, and don't miss it on my mobile experience either. For me it is not a necessary part of web browsing nor media downloading, and hasn't been for a while.
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Windows 8 Metro does support Flash. Please, read. It's only the Internet Explorer version for Metro which doesn't.
If different than the Ipad, which system doesn't support Flash at all.

Since it is a Windows OS, in theory, it's possible to install other browsers, like Mozilla or Chrome, and have Flash support. Because the OS allows that.
In theory. But again that didn't pan out so well with Windows Phone. And it seems that the ARM version will be built around metro.
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There will be only one version of Windows 8. There is not such thing as Windows 8 tablet. Windows 8 is an integrated system, metro and desktop at the same time.
So the exact same version of Windows 8 runs on both ARM and x86? Interesting. Someone should tell Steven Sinkofsky.
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In theory. But again that didn't pan out so well with Windows Phone. And it seems that the ARM version will be built around metro.
I don't think that comparing Windows Phone with Windows 8 is the best in this case. Remember, it's only one system: desktop and metro at the same time, running in all kind of architecture, ARM, x86, etc. There certainly will be x86 tablets running Windows 8. Even, the Samsung Tablet introduced by Windows in the BUILD conference has an x86 processor and it's running Windows 8
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So the exact same version of Windows 8 runs on both ARM and x86? Interesting. Someone should tell Steven Sinkofsky.
I didn't say that. I said that there is not will be Windows 8 Metro only. There are tablets with x86, so tablet does not mean ARM.
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I don't think that comparing Windows Phone with Windows 8 is the best in this case. Remember, it's only one system: desktop and metro at the same time, running in all kind of architecture, ARM, x86, etc. There certainly will be x86 tablets running Windows 8. Even, the Samsung Tablet introduced by Windows in the BUILD conference has an x86 processor and it's running Windows 8
One system maybe in a similar sense to iOS. With ARM machines being like the iPhone, x86 machines the iPad. (if you don't know, an iPad can run iPhone specific apps, but not vice versa)

Most likely it with be the ARM tablets which will compete directly with the iPad. I strongly suspect x86 tablets, with their greater bulk, cost, and/or limited battery life, will mainly serve niche markets.
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I suspect x86, with their greater bulk, cost, and/or limited battery life, will mainly serve niche markets.
I agree.
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I didn't say that. I said that there is not will be Windows 8 Metro only. There are tablets with x86, so tablet does not mean ARM.
Neither did I... but I was talking about METRO only in this thread but as another MS apologist feel free to obfuscate by throwing Desktop Win 8 into the mix and keep proving my original hypothesis...
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Windows 8 Metro does support Flash. Please, read. It's only the Internet Explorer version for Metro which doesn't.
If different than the Ipad, which system doesn't support Flash at all.
Indeed.
And there is nothing to discuss in this thread, besides FUD that makes Apple look not as bad.
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http://microsoft-news.com/ie10-metro...big-of-a-deal/

But see MetroFlash DOES exist: http://www.metropcs.com/metroflash/
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