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Old 05-26-2011, 07:07 PM   #46
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That's a good question. The only "Nook Friends" I have are my husband and step-daughter, and we already know what each other are reading.....
Okay - you've got to get out there. LOL!! I've gotten quite a few Nook Friends off of Goodreads and Facebook. It's an okay feature. Even more so if you are into lending books and such.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:27 PM   #47
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LOL, I'll remember that next time I need to send prepress files to my printer.
The basic issue here is paper.

Either you or your printer (a human I assume) has a fixed size piece of paper in mind so PDF has layout built-in to use that paper size. This size is known in advance when the PDF file is being created.

An eBook is created to run, not against paper, but in whatever eBook reader it is opened in. All eBook readers have a "page" size that defines their screen, which may change.

In this case the fixed layout of PDF files is actually incorrect.

Epub files fix this by "flowing" into an eBook reader screen pretty much the same way a bottle of beer flows into a glass. The glass defines the shape of the beer, unknown in advance. The same is true of the screen defining the shape of the eBook "page", unknown in advance.

While PDFs are great if you can rely on a fixed page size, they are totally lousy at eBook "reflow" if they even do it at all.

This is why .mobi or .epub files are the best for eBook use.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:45 PM   #48
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The basic issue here is paper.

Either you or your printer (a human I assume) has a fixed size piece of paper in mind so PDF has layout built-in to use that paper size. This size is known in advance when the PDF file is being created.

An eBook is created to run, not against paper, but in whatever eBook reader it is opened in. All eBook readers have a "page" size that defines their screen, which may change.

In this case the fixed layout of PDF files is actually incorrect.

Epub files fix this by "flowing" into an eBook reader screen pretty much the same way a bottle of beer flows into a glass. The glass defines the shape of the beer, unknown in advance. The same is true of the screen defining the shape of the eBook "page", unknown in advance.

While PDFs are great if you can rely on a fixed page size, they are totally lousy at eBook "reflow" if they even do it at all.

This is why .mobi or .epub files are the best for eBook use.
No kidding, but I was responding to his comment that PDF should never ever be used for any reason for anything.
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Old 05-27-2011, 12:39 AM   #49
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No kidding, but I was responding to his comment that PDF should never ever be used for any reason for anything.
That's because it shouldn't

One of the biggest reasons that PDF proliferated as an ebook format is because publishers were lazy. They had the PDF files they sent to the printers, PDFs are digital, ebook!

It shouldn't work that way. PDF in this case is a transport mechanism, nothing more. Doing it this way is like saying (warning! bad analogy ahead!), "I can pay for something in person with a check. Therefore, I can take a picture of a check and send it to Amazon to pay for my online purchase." There are better ways of doing this, like direct deposit using routing numbers and accounts, or using a debit card, but because you happen to have this paper check that you used to use to pay for physical stuff in the physical world, you think that it should be good enough to take a picture of that to pay for stuff in the digital world.

The sad thing is, there are older, more mature, open, readable, convertible (hereby shortened to "better") formats for layout, like the previously-mentioned LaTeX, PostScript, etc. Printers used to accept those, and many (most?) still do, but Adobe products essentially monopolized the publishing industry just as Microsoft Office monopolized business communication, and so a printer who won't take PDFs is as useless as a lawyer who won't accept DOCs. Just because that's the way things are doesn't make them right or good, and just because PDF has proliferated doesn't make it right or good.

PDF needs to be demonized, like IE6 was demonized, or it will continue to push its brokenness on us even though there are much better formats.
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PDF needs to be demonized, like IE6 was demonized, or it will continue to push its brokenness on us even though there are much better formats.
IE6 -- *gasp* The horror!
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