No Adobe ePub for Kindle? Really?!?!?!?

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm not following you here. All you need to transfer files directly from Calibre to the Kindle is a USB cable... unless I'm completely misunderstanding (which is certainly possible)?

Of course, you can. I try to avoid using USB cable too often as connection places tend to break after heavy use.

Unlike old Mobipocket PC which was a repository and synch for both DRM books and your own content, Amazon has divided this into Kindle PC for Amazon DRM content and Calibre for others, mostly non-DRM books. Not an elegant solution.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by karunaji

Unlike old Mobipocket PC which was a repository and synch for both DRM books and your own content, Amazon has divided this into Kindle PC for Amazon DRM content and Calibre for others, mostly non-DRM books. Not an elegant solution.

Agreed. "Syncing," with respect to Kindles, is a confusing term at best. Users of PDA's were conditioned to equate "syncing" with maintaining consistent content (including personal files) on two or more devices. Amazon has used the term in an entirely different (and misguided) context.

[shanghaichica]

Personally I think that ePub is overrated. I have a Sony reader and a kindle and I prefer mobi. I've never wanted to read an ebook from the lbrary but I suppose I could if I wanted to. The only thing I'm missing out on by not being able to read epubs on my kindle is over-priced and limited content. I also avoid having to use ADE.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

And yet you knew that libraries mostly lend ePubs that use Adobe DRM. Sounds like someone just needed a good rant. All better now?

Or someone dangling the bait....

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by GoSharks

As Sensual Poet said, the OP is not really looking for information.... if you view his posts on the other forums you'll note that he is simply trolling for an audience. He provides nothing useful to a discussion and likes to rant against all things Amazon.

The ignore button is so handy!

Ah, yes, seemed quite evident and this confirms it.

[m0isty]

Originally Posted by mickeyfinn

My friend, as you are probably aware, there are no secrets on the Internet. Ask any PI.

I may not know ereaders but I surely know how to glean info from what other people might consider unlikely sources.

After that trace backs are simple. They might cost a few sheckels ... but
they are often worth it.

Take care now.

<<The quoted user has been banned... MR Moderation Team>>

So what exactly are you threatening here, Mr internet detective?

Are you thinking of stealing his identity? Finding his address and pay him a visit?

Go troll somewhere else and stop talking rubbish...

[Valentino]

Originally Posted by m0isty

So what exactly are you threatening here, Mr internet detective?

Are you thinking of stealing his identity? Finding his address and pay him a visit?

Go troll somewhere else and stop talking rubbish...

Haha, he said trace backs! Wow, He obviously thinks he knows something from watching csi or some other television show.

edit on topic.

I don't care if the kindle supports epub at all, but they really need to update their mobi format to use decent css. There are really no options to make a nicely formatted mobi.
1em indent is almost too small 2em is way too big. No drop caps or nice styles and a ton of other small things that make a huge difference.

[carpetmojo]

?????

[Zarich]

only if used well. I have read several of those free books from smashwords. Some of them very good, but the formatting horrible in epub.

[Paulinafrica]

Originally Posted by ATDrake

Actually, as of 1.5, Kindle Previewer does auto-convert ePubs that are drag-and-dropped onto it. But it does so using an internal version of KindleGen, which incidentally, is now up to 1.2 and can do page numbers if the mapping info is included in the NCX.

I'm sorry to add to this Troll thread, but I just wanted to thank ATDrake for the info that he has passed on with regards to Kindle Previewer, I use it quite a bit but was blissfully unaware of this feature, this could potentially save me a lot of time editing in Sigil, you'd think that this would be a major 'selling point' on the kindle previwer, but I can't recall having seen it anywhere before, which kind of adds fuel to the theory as suggested by ProfCrash here that we should make a comprehensive FAQ/User guide for all things Kindle.
Cheers
Paul

[speedlever]

Originally Posted by karunaji

I bought Kindle WiFi because it was cheap and had the best Perl e-ink screen. After several months of use I find it quite inconvenient to deal with conversion of other file formats to mobi format every day.

Initially I thought that it will not be such a big issue because it is a WiFi device but I buy only 1/3 of my books from Amazon (1/3 are epubs both DRM and non-DRM, and 1/3 are my personal documents).

Greatest inconveniences with e-mailing via Amazon servers are as follows:
1) e-mail conversion sometimes fails for unknown reasons
2) there is an annoying delay of more than 1-2 minutes (it depends on file size)
3) conversion is not perfect, sometimes you get margins that are close to 50% of the screen size, sometimes encoding is garbled, or all the text becomes italic or bold
4) You need to be online for this function to work (3G is not an answer as personal document transfer costs are too high for me)

Using calibre conversion has the same faults – it also takes time, you need a special WinSCP software to transfer the files directly to Kindle, usually you see the problem only after transfer etc. And I won't even mention PDF reading issues.

When using USB cable for transfer, it is also annoying that after disconnecting from the computer it takes some time to rebuild the database.

Before Kindle I used Palm device for reading mobipocket books and although I also used to transfer books and new documents mostly via USB cable, it seemed to work quicker and more reliably in conjunction with Mobipocket PC. Apart from superb screen, Kindle software is still quite immature.

In short: Kindle works very well with Amazon books but it is a hassle to use with outside sources. My next device will not be Kindle anymore.

I can only say that my US based experience is completely opposite of yours. I use wifi on my K3 for receiving books that I email from within calibre. I've only had one email failure, and that was because the ebook was too large (44.9 MB) to email, so I had to sideload that one. I just send them via calibre, minimize the program while it does its thing, and when I get around to it, I'll enable wireless on my K3 and get all the books I've sent. I need to spend some time with the calibre plug-in to put some order to my collections.

My experience getting books from sources other than Amazon has been totally painless. Here is a list of my sources for ebooks thus far:



I don't list Amazon as I just have my Amazon books sent directly to my K3. I need to make a folder for my Amazon books, d/l them and strip DRM from them for safekeeping.

There are sources I haven't even tapped yet, and I currently have enough ebooks stashed on my K3 to last me a loooong time.

Either I'm not picky about margins or I've not experienced any problems yet. I'm happy with all my conversions thus far.

[karunaji]

Originally Posted by speedlever

Either I'm not picky about margins or I've not experienced any problems yet. I'm happy with all my conversions thus far.

I am glad for you. I also haven't encountered a problem that I couldn't fix but I just don't like to spend my time fixing problems. I can imagine that you have less problems because you don't have to deal with texts in other languages, Latvian and Russian in my case.

[JSWolf]

You (people using the word troll incorrectly) are using the word troll incorrectly.

The meaning of troll is someone in an online chat (i.e., IRC) trolling for online sex. Hence calling the person a troll. It has nothing to do with disrupting a forum.

[montalex]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You (people using the word troll incorrectly) are using the word troll incorrectly.

The meaning of troll is someone in an online chat (i.e., IRC) trolling for online sex. Hence calling the person a troll. It has nothing to do with disrupting a forum.

From Wikipedia:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". While the term troll and its associated action trolling are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, recent media accounts have used the term troll to describe "a person who defaces internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families.

I can think of several regular posters here who meet that definition....

[Mark Rehorst]

All I want to know is can I get an ePint or and eWhisky in an ePub? How about some bangers and mash? Bubble and squeak? Can I get a rousing chorus of "Innocent When You Dream" going in an ePub?