Lendle: Amazon has revoked Lendle's API access

[kennyc]

I say you sue the bastards for copyright infringement!

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I say you sue the bastards for copyright infringement!

There is no copyright... haven't you heard? I'm you and you're me. Which means we're both just collapsing wave-fronts in a brain-cell of some dreaming, giant encephalopod who's waiting for the Eschaton to be immanentized.

Ergo... copyright bad.

Anyway... happy Lendling, Lendlers.

[Giggleton]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Completely wrong. Amazon would be out of business and there be no books to loan or purchase. You continue to spew your completely illogical, unsupportable and in fact harmful ideas.

Amazon might not have a business in the copyright free world, mayhaps they are akin to the stationers company of yore? Amazon does provide a service, they get books into the hands of the public, with no copyright, this service would become extremely streamlined and highly competitive. As mentioned previously authors are going to want as close to 100% royalties as possible. I doubt Amazon will survive the shift into the new era.

A highly sophisticated lendle program with millions of members could very well take the place of Amazon.

As to your remarks concerning the idea that writers will no longer write with no copyright protection, that is simply untrue. Some might not write, but many still will. And perhaps the writings we do receive from these writers will be of a higher quality.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

There is no copyright... haven't you heard? I'm you and you're me. Which means we're both just collapsing wave-fronts in a brain-cell of some dreaming, giant encephalopod who's waiting for the Eschaton to be immanentized.

Ergo... copyright bad.

Anyway... happy Lendling, Lendlers.

You been listening to the giggle cat too much.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Giggleton

Amazon might not have a business in the copyright free world, mayhaps they are akin to the stationers company of yore? Amazon does provide a service, they get books into the hands of the public, with no copyright, this service would become extremely streamlined and highly competitive. As mentioned previously authors are going to want as close to 100% royalties as possible. I doubt Amazon will survive the shift into the new era.

A highly sophisticated lendle program with millions of members could very well take the place of Amazon.

As to your remarks concerning the idea that writers will no longer write with no copyright protection, that is simply untrue. Some might not write, but many still will. And perhaps the writings we do receive from these writers will be of a higher quality.

Just so you know, you're being ignored by me as your ideas don't mesh or even intersect with reality.

[wyndslash]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Just so you know, you're being ignored by me as your ideas don't mesh or even intersect with reality.

then you shouldn't have told him that, because that's still "not ignoring" him

[kennyc]

Just don't want him to waste too much energy responding to me.

[SleepyBob]

Originally Posted by Giggleton

As to your remarks concerning the idea that writers will no longer write with no copyright protection, that is simply untrue. Some might not write, but many still will. And perhaps the writings we do receive from these writers will be of a higher quality.

How in the world do you imagine that could happen? The number of people who will write full-time will go down, if they can no longer expect the same financial benefit they currently receive. And in any profession, people who do a task full-time are almost always more skilled than those who do it part-time, with rare exceptions.

Or do you think that authors currently write more poorly than they are capable of, due to the damning effect of their work being protected by copyright?

Or are you imagining that there is a mass of writing geniuses out there that will suddenly start writing, who had held off until now because they didn't want their books to be subject to copyright?

[Joykins]

Isn't it in the developers Bible not to build your software to rely on a 3rd party API who could revoke your access at any time?

I'm glad they're getting Lendle back up

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Joykins

Isn't it in the developers Bible not to build your software to rely on a 3rd party API who could revoke your access at any time?

I'm glad they're getting Lendle back up

Yes, but sometimes there is no choice. (been there done that got the t-shirt)

[giedre]

After reading all the posts on this thread, I still don't understand how this is all that different from lending pbooks to others?

[kjk]

Originally Posted by giedre

After reading all the posts on this thread, I still don't understand how this is all that different from lending pbooks to others?

I think the original idea of lending (from Amazon's point of view) was that you lend a couple books to your friends and family, and vice versa, just like you would your paper books.

The internet being what it is, this idea was expanded by several websites into a national network of lending to anyone.

But yeah, the basic principle is the same. Still one copy of the book at a time, lent out for someone else's pleasure.

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by giedre

After reading all the posts on this thread, I still don't understand how this is all that different from lending pbooks to others?

The salient differences are:

1) Kindle/nook lending-- you can lend a book once. Paper book lending -- you can lend a book as many times as you like.

2) Kindle/nook lending -- loans are restricted to people participating in that ebook platform (kindle or nook). Paper book lending-- you can lend to anyone who is interested.

3) Kindle/nook lending -- loans take place over the Internet. Paper book lending -- loans take place in person or through the mail/package delivery. (note that the international network of strangers is more or less the same for paper and kindle/nook-- i.e. paperbackswap and the like).

4) Kindle/nook lending -- loans are for a 2-week period at which point your book is automatically returned. Paper book lending -- loans are for indefinite periods and you may or may not ever get your book back.

Kindle/nook lending is also sometimes subject to bugs and loan failure whereas if a paper book loan fails, it's because the book is destroyed or lost in the mail.

[Piper_]

Originally Posted by kjk

I think the original idea of lending (from Amazon's point of view) was that you lend a couple books to your friends and family, and vice versa, just like you would your paper books.

The internet being what it is, this idea was expanded by several websites into a national network of lending to anyone.

But yeah, the basic principle is the same. Still one copy of the book at a time, lent out for someone else's pleasure.

Even more restrictive - it can only be lent out one time per the book's life.

[dmikov]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I liked this bit:


It's almost like they read my previous post.

The one accusing them of piracy and bad intentions?
Padding your post count much?