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Old 02-12-2011, 01:46 PM   #46
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Doesn't anyone like McDonald's coffee? It's cheaper, there's free WiFi and plenty of seating.
MickeyD's coffee is actually quite tasty. but wanna know how much less a 20oz coffee is there compared to a 20oz Starbucks coffee? About a dime less depending on the store. Both at about $1.90-$2.00 for a 20oz coffee only at Starbucks if you use your SB card refills are free as is the wifi.

I'm no overt fan of SB but they offer a nice place to relax, have a coffee and have friendly service (never had the sort of smugness many seem to need to project on the staff, hey they are just trying to earn a living fer goodness sakes in a fast paced workplace, people should cut them a bit of slack). In fact our local SB has often gone out of their way to make sure my orders are right or even come and ask if I need a refill, even if it's free.

Every store is different and their coffee is not the best, TBH I do prefer the coffee at MickeyD's for some reason. But I have never run into any issues over ANYTHING at SB's.

I prefer sitting in a SB's over that of a MickeyD's with the zillion sticky kids running around with their disease ridden hands touching everything... Just teasing, they don't touch everything.
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And this is after closing stores and cutting back staff.
Yeah. I think Borders should have meetings there and get some lessons on how to turn a profit.
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Agreed! The smug, self satisfaction on the faces of, well everyone in those places is appalling.

While I don't agree with the attitude, I guess I sort of understand the faith in their divinely appointed 'specialness' in a young stock trader or lawyer eaning a half million+ dollars a year, I DON'T understand the same atitude in the staff in those places. They are STILL just waiters eaning minimum wage with no benefits.

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Winter? That could describe just about anytime between ... I dunno ... October and June?

I very rarely patronize coffee shops - I'd rather read with a beer instead. Better class of people, too (at least here).
I wouldn't invite Gary, dude might bring his murdin' ax with him.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:50 PM   #49
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Doesn't anyone like McDonald's coffee? It's cheaper, there's free WiFi and plenty of seating.
When they started offering their "coffee bar" and free wifi I tried them out. Ordered a nonfat no-whip mocha. They did not know what it meant. And I was instructed to order by number! Turned out to be vending machine quality.

Sat down and couldn't help notice the homeless guy barking like a dog a few booths down. McDonald's does draw that special clientele.
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MickeyD's coffee is actually quite tasty. but wanna know how much less a 20oz coffee is there compared to a 20oz Starbucks coffee? About a dime less depending on the store. Both at about $1.90-$2.00 for a 20oz coffee only at Starbucks if you use your SB card refills are free as is the wifi.
I didn't know that. I just figured everything was $5 or more.
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Sat down and couldn't help notice the homeless guy barking like a dog a few booths down. McDonald's does draw that special clientele.
Free floor show. You're lucky they didn't hit you with a cover charge.
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I didn't know that. I just figured everything was $5 or more.
Honestly, I used to think the same thing because it's long been the fashion to perpetuate that idea. But they still sell an "honest" coffee which is all I get when there, unless I get beans. I drink Turkish style coffee at home and they are the only place in town with a grinder that does a good job with such a fine grind.

Still their coffee is not really special to me. I do not mind their Pike's Place roast as a general drinking coffee. But to me coffee is, well just coffee. I do enjoy their Awake black tea though, well it's Tazo Tea and as I remember SB bought them a few years back or something like that.
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what a cool bit of news for a change. Thanks for posting the info!! I never knew there was a real life basis for the story. neat factoid!!
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I do enjoy their Awake black tea though, well it's Tazo Tea and as I remember SB bought them a few years back or something like that.
They did; back in 1999.
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Winter? That could describe just about anytime between ... I dunno ... October and June?
It does; and I love it.
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I understand the office space argument and can see perfectly well how coffee shop workers should not be required to distinguish between all mobile devices. All perfectly fair.

That said, here in Brazil, carrying tablets in the bus is quite like an invitation for robbery. Which is why some smartasses developed the brilliant idea of carrying their tablets inside hollow books: they carve out a window in the book's pages where their tablets will fit.

So, people thinking they are rightfully entitled to some reading while in a cafe, be it on physical or digital form, might give it a try.
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That said, here in Brazil, carrying tablets in the bus is quite like an invitation for robbery. Which is why some smartasses developed the brilliant idea of carrying their tablets inside hollow books: they carve out a window in the book's pages where their tablets will fit.
Wait until the bad guys catch on and start carrying their own "books".

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The coffee shop owners aren't *luddites*; I'm sure that they use all kinds of technology in their business. What they are is unsure how to make a profit when people with laptops buy a drink for $2-4 and then spend two hours a table doing homework/facebook/shopping/etc.
Apparently you need a refresher course on what "luddite" means in the modern usage. Luddites are not opposed to all technology (if they were, they would be in the woods digging up roots with their bare hands and no clothes). Luddites are against new technology (and usually automated or computerized technology). If you ban ereaders and not paper books, you are indeed a luddite.
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Doesn't anyone like McDonald's coffee? It's cheaper, there's free WiFi and plenty of seating.
I used to love BK's coffee, then they switched to "Seattle's Best" -- bleech -- so it's McD's by default.
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but if a cafe/anywhere is going to offer free wifi, I don't feel it's necessary to buy anything more than one item while I'm there. I go to Panera to do my homework frequently. Sometimes I bring a laptop if I need it, sometimes I bring textbooks. I sit at one of the little side 2-people tables and buy a coffee or a chai tea and go to town. I'll be in there for a couple hours. I don't do this during lunch time, so I don't think it's rude.

And honestly, if you don't want people using your 'free wifi', don't offer it. Or put restrictions on it, passwords or something.

I think I might start going to Chick-fil-a! I've never had their coffee, and they now offer wifi.
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