ASUSteK's answer to the Foleo: the Eee PC, and it's $200! - Page 4

Nightwing · 06-09-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

No Fry's in Massachusetts. We have Best Buy though.

Between Geek Squad problems and the investigation.. How long are they still going to be a round?

Did check to see who sells Asus laptops but saw nothing of who sells there stuff..

Nightwing · 06-09-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

No Fry's in Massachusetts. We have Best Buy though.

Supprising the do handle asus!

alex_d · 06-09-2007, 03:50 AM

People need to stop recommending windows 2000! It is NOT faster than XP in terms of processor usage. In fact, the XP kernel probably has more optimizations. In terms of memory, win2k uses less only by default. Disable xp themes and a bunch of services, and there won't be a real difference in memory either.

Meanwhile, win2k has tons of rough corners and dumb things that were fixed in xp. A lot of newer device functionality (such as connecting to networks and especially wifi!) is also much better. Not to mention driver support.

People HAVE GOT to stop perpetuating this ignorant myth. People who use win2k need to be shot, as do people who run win2k3 on their desktops.

Second, I seriously doubt Ubuntu running firefox will be any faster or use less memore than windows xp doing the same thing. Linux isn't automatically and magically leaner, meaner, or better than windows! You need a special distribution that desn't use KDE/Gnome, runs an alternate browser like Dillo, and has other tweaks to actually get something that's fast.

Third, everyone should check out nLite. It lets you create Windows distributions with many components removed and lets you integrate all sorts of tweaks, apps, drivers, updates into the installation cd itself.

nLited windows xp can use 40 MB of ram and half a gig of disk space. That's definatley what I'd be putting on this thing.

Alexander Turcic · 06-09-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Azayzel

OMfrigginG!!! I thought I liked this new UI, but it just dumped a post that I spent the last 15 minutes working on!!!! That's the last time I click submit w/o copying what I typed to the clipboard before I click submit. Grrrrrr, it's off to bed for me before I have an aneurysm!

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Originally Posted by mogui

I have had this problem too. What browser are you using?

Sorry to hear you guys experience some problems. I am not sure if this problem is related to our latest forumsoftware. Could you start a new thread in the feedback forum and describe exactly what happened -- and perhaps others will also report similar issues. I am trying to solve anything that could be wrong

Steven Lyle Jordan · 06-09-2007, 08:11 AM

The closest Frys to me is in Georgia. Long way to go to check out electronics...

Steven Lyle Jordan · 06-09-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightwing

That would make it a problem... Guess Amazon would be one place to try...

Great! ...Where's the nearest Amazon store?...

branko · 06-09-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by alex_d

People need to stop recommending windows 2000! It is NOT faster than XP in terms of processor usage. In fact, the XP kernel probably has more optimizations. In terms of memory, win2k uses less only by default. Disable xp themes and a bunch of services, and there won't be a real difference in memory either.

I am not going to disable anything. I am your proverbial grandmother. I don't understand all this computer stuff. Is Asus going to do all this tweaking for me? If not, then the argument that you should use the OS that is the leanest out of the box is valid.

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Originally Posted by alex_d

People HAVE GOT to stop perpetuating this ignorant myth. People who use win2k need to be shot, as do people who run win2k3 on their desktops.

Does the second follow from the first? If so how? And why do these Win2K users need to be shot?

branko · 06-09-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alex_d

I can't understand nor believe how they're selling a winxp machine for $200.

This is incredible. I hope the people behind the $100 (now $150) craptop per child project are bowing their heads in shame.

You seem to like using strong words, but that makes it hard for me to guess whether you are being serious here or not.

stxopher · 06-09-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Great! ...Where's the nearest Amazon store?...

Let me check here......

...Brazil?

(Same situation with Frys and Best Buy here.)

wallcraft · 06-09-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_d

I seriously doubt Ubuntu running firefox will be any faster or use less memore than windows xp doing the same thing. Linux isn't automatically and magically leaner, meaner, or better than windows! You need a special distribution that desn't use KDE/Gnome, runs an alternate browser like Dillo, and has other tweaks to actually get something that's fast.

If the standard set of software for such machines is going to include Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice, then I'm not sure how much difference there would be between Linux and Windows XP - because these are all relatively heavy weight applications. But the important point is that heavy weight applications are ok. These are not low performing systems in the Linux world, they are definitely good enough for Gnome and KDE if you want to use them. They are probably good enough for full-up Windows XP as well (in fact 1st generation UMPC's are demonstrations of this).

I base this on my experience with a standard PepperPad 3 with 256 MB of memory and 20 GB of disk. I would not describe OpenOffice as snappy on a PP3, but it is acceptable and more memory (rather than more cpu power) helps a lot. This will be even less of an issue on devices with SSD for swap space. On the PP3 (which uses FireFox as its standard browser) I started out looking for "light weight" applications but it turns out that even a 533 MHz Geode is plenty fast enough for most Gnome and KDE applications. What you don't get is 3-D acceleration or much multi-tasking capability (don't run two or three memory and/or cpu hogs at once). On a small screen you don't need the full power of the Gnome or KDE desktop environment, but both are configurable enough to be used in a "every application runs full screen" mode. I also have a Nokia 770 and I actually prefer the PP3 with its Metacity window manager plus a single gnome-panel at the bottom of the screen to the 770 with Matchbox and Hildon. Even though the latter was designed for small screens and the former was not.

Randy Tomalloff · 06-09-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RWood

ASUS is one of my favorite motherboards. I have used them for many years since I first started to build my own systems.

At $200 they could clean up.

How out iPhone ? Can you browse the web easily, How does the browser look on the mini screen?

Thanks Guys

wallcraft · 06-09-2007, 07:05 PM

Something that has not been mentioned is that this does not look at all like a $200 device. See these photos. Note that these are of the 7" and the later 10" screen versions (the 10" looks even better). There also seem to be plenty of ports (multiple USB, VGA, RJ45, RJ11 and perhaps a SD card slot).

NatCh · 06-09-2007, 07:08 PM

Welcome to MobileRead, Randy Tomalloff!

I don't think that the iPhone has been released yet ... unless I missed it....

Azayzel · 06-09-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mogui

I have had this problem too. What browser are you using?

I'm using IE 7. It's happened to me quite a bit today, quite frustrating. I've posted a detailed explanation on what I think causes it in the migration thread.

JSWolf · 06-09-2007, 10:25 PM

I don't know if this is a bug or I'm not reading it correctly...

When I click the multi-quote this message button and then click quote, all the quotes in the message no longer show up. I would like to be able to quote a message and have the quotes show up as well as the original message.

Jon

06-09-2007, 07:05 PM	#57
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Something that has not been mentioned is that this does not look at all like a $200 device. See these photos. Note that these are of the 7" and the later 10" screen versions (the 10" looks even better). There also seem to be plenty of ports (multiple USB, VGA, RJ45, RJ11 and perhaps a SD card slot). Last edited by wallcraft; 06-09-2007 at 07:20 PM.

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alex_d Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 187 Join Date: Dec 2006 Device: Sony Reader	People need to stop recommending windows 2000! It is NOT faster than XP in terms of processor usage. In fact, the XP kernel probably has more optimizations. In terms of memory, win2k uses less only by default. Disable xp themes and a bunch of services, and there won't be a real difference in memory either. Meanwhile, win2k has tons of rough corners and dumb things that were fixed in xp. A lot of newer device functionality (such as connecting to networks and especially wifi!) is also much better. Not to mention driver support. People HAVE GOT to stop perpetuating this ignorant myth. People who use win2k need to be shot, as do people who run win2k3 on their desktops. Second, I seriously doubt Ubuntu running firefox will be any faster or use less memore than windows xp doing the same thing. Linux isn't automatically and magically leaner, meaner, or better than windows! You need a special distribution that desn't use KDE/Gnome, runs an alternate browser like Dillo, and has other tweaks to actually get something that's fast. Third, everyone should check out nLite. It lets you create Windows distributions with many components removed and lets you integrate all sorts of tweaks, apps, drivers, updates into the installation cd itself. nLited windows xp can use 40 MB of ram and half a gig of disk space. That's definatley what I'd be putting on this thing.

06-09-2007, 08:11 AM	#50
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	The closest Frys to me is in Georgia. Long way to go to check out electronics...

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NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Welcome to MobileRead, Randy Tomalloff! I don't think that the iPhone has been released yet ... unless I missed it....

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,741 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I don't know if this is a bug or I'm not reading it correctly... When I click the multi-quote this message button and then click quote, all the quotes in the message no longer show up. I would like to be able to quote a message and have the quotes show up as well as the original message. Jon

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