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Old 11-10-2010, 01:11 PM   #46
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I think this discussion is a little absurd. I'm a lefty and do things left-handed whenever possible. However, we live in a right-handed world and need to adapt.
< VANDY steps upon the soapbox and starts to speak... >

NEVER!!

Never give in to the Right-Handed People. Lefties of the wold, we must unite -- unite and become a potent force to fight against Right-Handed bias. After all, ONLY LEFT-HANDED PEOPLE are in the right side of the mind.

As all minorities struggle, we must make our voices heard -- heard in town squares, heard in state capitals, heard in CONGRESS!!

Eqaulity means left-handers are AS EQUAL as right-handers and MUST be treated as such.

DON'T LET ANY Right-Hander take advantage of you. Stand for your rights, your equality, your ALL.

WE SHALL OVERCOME!!

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Old 11-10-2010, 02:00 PM   #47
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I'm totally left handed and hate right hand only products. Like dwig, I only use true left handed scissors (and sadly have to special order them). My kitchen set-up would make any righty who tries to cook in it, go insane.

Still, I don't have any problem with the Kindle. It seems no different to me than texting on a phone that has certain keys on the right. I've tried several times to use my mouse left handed, but actually prefer it on the right. Like a few others have said, it leaves my left hand free to do "real" work.
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:25 PM   #48
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The only ' right' thing I do is writing, as my left hand was tied up by the teacher, when I learned how to write. Still have problems when someone tells me to go to the 'right' or ' left'; was a bit of a disaster when taking driving-lessons.

But for scissors; I never thought/knew there were special ones.
And for opening wine.....I always turn the bottle in stead of the cork-screw.

But the Kindle has page-turners at both sides and that's really handy.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:43 AM   #49
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The only ' right' thing I do is writing, as my left hand was tied up by the teacher, when I learned how to write.
Literally? I thought that sort of thing was something that only happened long ago, before you and I were in school anyway. My brother, who is two and a half years older than us (just saw that you were born one day before me ) was allowed to write left-handed, so it never occurred to me that children in our "enlightened" education system might still, even today, be tortured into conforming to the right-handed world.

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Old 11-11-2010, 01:16 PM   #50
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Well, Holly, our little antique school in the waybacks of our country, wanted the pupils to have a nice handwriting. And every lefty in our class got the same treatment.
And indeed; I do write a beautiful copperplate.
I loved the teacher though.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:50 AM   #51
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Well, Holly, our little antique school in the waybacks of our country, wanted the pupils to have a nice handwriting. And every lefty in our class got the same treatment.
And indeed; I do write a beautiful copperplate.
I loved the teacher though.
The method seems extreme, but I am sure your writing is much nicer than mine (I'm right-handed and I definitely don't have beautiful copperplate writing!) so perhaps the results were worth it! And at least you were not singled out so the treatment was pretty much expected and accepted by your peers. Still, I am sure the "copperplate" results could have been achieved if they allowed the left-handed folks to learn to write naturally with their left hands - the right-handed teachers probably just didn't know how to teach the skill that way!

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Old 11-12-2010, 12:02 PM   #52
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I'm a lefty and always have written left-handed -- I never got that kind of treatment from a teacher. I have good writing and don't smear on the page (I never bent my wrist in that odd way that so many lefties do).

I'm an avid World of Warcraft player (Cenarion Circle, Horde, before anybody asks) and I use a gaming mouse that isn't fit for left-hand use; I've always been a right-side mouser. I have a couple of addons that bind advanced functions to right-handed thumb buttons and that feels entirely natural along with using the "standard" button arrangement for righties. I also play Battlefield 2 with friends at times and have a right-handed joystick for controlling helicopters and planes and always have been a right-side joysticker, too.

But I find right-handed can openers and corkscrews very awkward, always twist twist ties shut "backwards" with my left hand, and find most scissor handles an annoyance (thankfully, those where I work are suitable for use with either hand; I don't need reversed blades).

What's "copperplate"?

I would have appreciated a version of the Kindle with the controller on the left side, but it's not a huge problem for me. However, I'll never buy a DX (even if I had a need for the big screen, which I don't currently desire) until it gets the buttons on both sides just like the smaller Kindles. I really do like how the Kindle 3 placed the Previous Page button on both sides, unlike the Kindle 2 -- I do usually read with the Kindle in my left hand but sometimes I switch to the right.

Anyone know where I can find a leftie Wenger Swiss Army knife? They were discontinued and no one seems to sell them anymore.
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What's "copperplate"?
Here is a classic example of copperplate writing:

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Anyone know where I can find a leftie Wenger Swiss Army knife? They were discontinued and no one seems to sell them anymore.
Here is a site that appears to still sell at least one version of the left-handed Swiss Army knife: http://www.leftyslefthanded.com/Left...n_p/586054.htm
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Here is a classic example of copperplate writing:

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Thanks Holly, that's exactly my handwriting; I learned to write like that when I was six years old; the H and K gave me the most trouble; beautiful isn't it?
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I'm one of those goofs who crosshatches the number 7 in the European style. I see this method does that, too.

I don't write cursive quite like this; I learned what's called the D'Nealian Script. See https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cursive for a picture. I learned it in second grade. I still mostly use the method, although I don't write the uppercase G or Q or F that way.

It might not be the accepted method today, but my handwriting is perfectly readable and I can elegantly print, too, so no complaints!
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I don't write cursive quite like this; I learned what's called the D'Nealian Script. See https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cursive for a picture. I learned it in second grade. I still mostly use the method, although I don't write the uppercase G or Q or F that way.

It might not be the accepted method today, but my handwriting is perfectly readable and I can elegantly print, too, so no complaints!

Thats the method I learned also......but I could never do the 'slant'. My handwriting is "upright"......altho I would never call it 'elegant'.....
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My teachers told me to stop writing in cursive by the 6th grade. In high school they had me typing answers. My handwriting is awful
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I'm also a lefty, and do most things lefty (except brush my teeth.....that one has always made me wonder, lol). I do use a right-handed mouse, but I think that's because the first computer we had in the house was shared by all the righties in the house, and I just learned to adjust (now trying to use it left-handed just feels weird). I've tried left handed scissors as a kid and HATED them....could never get them to work well, lol. And I've never, ever had any issues with using my kindle
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Another completely post.

Buran D'Nealian cursive is what I learned as well - though I had no idea until you posted in this thread that that was what it was called.
I must say that desertblues' copperplate cursive is much prettier and certainly more elegant!

Like desertgrandma, my cursive was never elegant. I wrote in cursive until I went to college, and then suddenly started to print instead because is was so much faster (for me anyway) for taking notes in classes/lectures. Now I can't even write in cursive when I try, except for my signature. My printing wasn't and isn't elegant, either; sometimes I really struggle to decipher what I have written.

Now of course, college kids - and high school kids as well, from what ProfCrash posted -probably use their laptops for taking notes, but no such device existed (for the "masses" anyway) when I was there. After all, when I was growing up the only calculator allowed in classes was the slide rule! (At least we were past the abacus stage. )

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