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Old 10-20-2010, 05:51 PM   #46
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I keep seeing posts about big/bad/fierce watchdoggies.

Should the worst happen......people coming after you won't worry about them.....a couple of rounds will drop them post haste. So I"m hoping you have other means of protection.....

VR......you just wag your tail and you'll be fine. No one could look into those eyes and shoot!
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After my post apocalyptic trip across the country with a wife, two kids, a dog, the two cats (I'm sure I'll have to bring them), and probably the iguana, the pickings will be pretty slim.

But your welcome to the iguana....
Do they taste like chicken?
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After my post apocalyptic trip across the country with a wife, two kids, a dog, the two cats (I'm sure I'll have to bring them), and probably the iguana, the pickings will be pretty slim.

But your welcome to the iguana....
Are you sure that you have to bring the wife and kids? Just tell them that it's a business trip.


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I keep seeing posts about big/bad/fierce watchdoggies.

Should the worst happen......people coming after you won't worry about them.....a couple of rounds will drop them post haste. So I"m hoping you have other means of protection.....
The dogs are just to distract them while you take careful aim. Don't want to waste bullets, do you?


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gee guys am I going to have to start to look at bigger properties?
Just build down with many escape tunnels and lots of stored food. An underground pool like Ralph Sir Edward has under his outhouse would be nice. Of course I really am assuming that the outhouse isn't directly over the pool.

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Are you sure that you have to bring the wife and kids? Just tell them that it's a business trip.


The dogs are just to distract them while you take careful aim. Don't want to waste bullets, do you?


Just build down with many escape tunnels and lots of stored food. An underground pool like Ralph Sir Edward has under his outhouse would be nice. Of course I really am assuming that the outhouse isn't directly over the pool.

PS - don't forget to have several servers to store all of our books on so we can share.



(wipes eyes) Oh, you kids!
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We could all bring an external hdd or two to help build the server farm. I've got a 2Tb one on my desk that should hold a fair few...
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I keep seeing posts about big/bad/fierce watchdoggies.

Should the worst happen......people coming after you won't worry about them.....a couple of rounds will drop them post haste. So I"m hoping you have other means of protection.....

VR......you just wag your tail and you'll be fine. No one could look into those eyes and shoot!
That depends on whose shoes he's pee'd on....Red.
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Are you sure that you have to bring the wife and kids? Just tell them that it's a business trip.




The dogs are just to distract them while you take careful aim. Don't want to waste bullets, do you?




Just build down with many escape tunnels and lots of stored food. An underground pool like Ralph Sir Edward has under his outhouse would be nice. Of course I really am assuming that the outhouse isn't directly over the pool.

PS - don't forget to have several servers to store all of our books on so we can share.

Nope, it's right over the quicklime pit....(Think about it....)
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Texas is a wonderful state, so maybe I'll visit your outhouse if I can after reading the Heinlein book you mentioned.

On the other hand KK is young and beautiful, and I’m young and handsome, so I may just head out that way.


KK - don't shoot the old geezer. That'll be me in disguise.
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As the thread is marked "Seriously thoughtful" I'll give a seriously thoughtful answer or two.

In her first post, DG mentions some of the things that could happen - hurricanes, earthquakes, and terrorist attack disrupting food/water systems. But no matter how many would die, it would be a local problem.

As such, we can plan for the foreseeable scenarios. If we live through that giant earthquake or hurricane, we'll have a better chance of making it thru the period of recovery afterward.

Some things we prepare for simply by being aware of the potential of a problem, and understanding how to react. Those in tornado areas are aware of where to find shelter without always dwelling on it. The same can be said of those in earthquake and hurricanes prone areas.

Some of us have a "grab it and run" bag with the essentials to get us past a few days. That, and a larger supply of food/water/clothing/medicine in reserve will get us past most of the emergencies that 95% of us will ever face.

Someone mentioned having a credit card in an emergency as an option. Don't laugh, I used one to move my wife and mother out of the path of a hurricane and into a hotel. It was a near miss, and when we returned the worst we found was a chimney that was knocked over.

Peope who understand what may happen and make plans for it are far better off than those who believe that "someone" will take care of them in a disaster.

In that near miss by a hurricane I drove well inland. Because all of the food and survival gear in the world wasn't going to protect an old wood framed house 50 feet from the bay where we lived. I also took some food, clothing, water, and camping gear incase the hotels/motels were full.

Aside from tending the animals, KK isn't going to have any problem handling heavy snow storms. I could handle that too. I have handled 11 fall days without power, and several 1 to 3 day winter storms without power. It's not a real problem if you're prepared.

On the other hand if you gave me a house for free in an earthquake area, provided that I lived there, I would say no think you.
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I'm bringing: US Army Survival Manual: FM 21-76, http://www.amazon.com/US-Army-Surviv.../dp/0967512395. What do you think Kindlekitten, is it any good? I thought perhaps you would know being an army gal and all.

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As the thread is marked "Seriously thoughtful" I'll give a seriously thoughtful answer or two.

In her first post, DG mentions some of the things that could happen - hurricanes, earthquakes, and terrorist attack disrupting food/water systems. But no matter how many would die, it would be a local problem.

As such, we can plan for the foreseeable scenarios. If we live through that giant earthquake or hurricane, we'll have a better chance of making it thru the period of recovery afterward.

Some things we prepare for simply by being aware of the potential of a problem, and understanding how to react. Those in tornado areas are aware of where to find shelter without always dwelling on it. The same can be said of those in earthquake and hurricanes prone areas.

Some of us have a "grab it and run" bag with the essentials to get us past a few days. That, and a larger supply of food/water/clothing/medicine in reserve will get us past most of the emergencies that 95% of us will ever face.

Someone mentioned having a credit card in an emergency as an option. Don't laugh, I used one to move my wife and mother out of the path of a hurricane and into a hotel. It was a near miss, and when we returned the worst we found was a chimney that was knocked over.

Peope who understand what may happen and make plans for it are far better off than those who believe that "someone" will take care of them in a disaster.

In that near miss by a hurricane I drove well inland. Because all of the food and survival gear in the world wasn't going to protect an old wood framed house 50 feet from the bay where we lived. I also took some food, clothing, water, and camping gear incase the hotels/motels were full.

Aside from tending the animals, KK isn't going to have any problem handling heavy snow storms. I could handle that too. I have handled 11 fall days without power, and several 1 to 3 day winter storms without power. It's not a real problem if you're prepared.

On the other hand if you gave me a house for free in an earthquake area, provided that I lived there, I would say no think you.

In all seriousness, you're right. For the civilization collapse scenario, you have to be able to go where people aren't and where people can't easily get to. The best buffer is a large stretch of water, to a place with little attraction to people (but you've figured out how to live there). The problem with this is you're effectively abandoned civilization before it's collapsed - and it may not.

For the lesser things, lesser measures will suffice.
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Wow I would come prepared with this book.

yeah it is good! the Ranger Handbook is also good!
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