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Old 04-07-2015, 02:10 PM   #5746
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Cool Jim Butcher at #Eastercon #Dysprosium 2015: The Ultimate #Urban #Fantasy panel

April 5, 2015 · by Deborah Jay · in Eastercon Dysprosium 2015

Well, not just Jim Butcher; CE Murphy and Charles Stross were equally engaging on The Ultimate Urban Fantasy Panel, but I’ve seen them both before: for me, this was my Jim Butcher introduction, and I’d happily listen to him again.



The panellists began by stating that editors have been saying for over 10 years now, that Urban Fantasy is dead.

Then they suggested that perhaps what editors were really talking about was Paranormal Romance.

I think there are plenty of readers out there who would disagree with both statements, hmm?

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Old 04-08-2015, 01:39 AM   #5748
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Attachment 136857 Skin Game nominated for a Hugo!

Congratulations to Jim Butcher for his second Hugo Nomination, and his first in the Best Novel category! Yes, Skin Game made the Hugo short list! His previous nomination was in 2009 in the Best Graphic Novel category for Welcome to the Jungle–an award which went to the excellent Girl Genius, Volume 8.

Jim’s fellow contenders this year are:

.....Ancillary Sword by Ann Leckie (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
.....The Dark Between the Stars by Kevin J. Anderson (Tor Books)
.....The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison (Sarah Monette) (Tor Books)
.....Lines of Departure by Marko Kloos (47North)

Also, major congrats to Jim’s editor, Anne Sowards, for her nomination in Best Editor (Long Form)! Anne’s illustrious client list also includes Patricia Briggs, Benedict Jacka, Anne Bishop, Ilona Andrews, Kat Richardson, Karen Chance, Jack Campbell, Rob Thurman, Devon Monk, Lisa Shearin, Myke Cole… Basically everyone you have ever loved.

Check out the full list of nominees here! For a comprehensive guide to the Hugos, including the full history of the awards and instructions for how to vote, see the official site at www.thehugoawards.org.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the 2015 Hugo awards have been gamed and Jim's nomination is one of the gamed nominations. So even if he wins, he doesn't really win. Please see the thread on the issues surrounding the 2015 Hugo awards.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but the 2015 Hugo awards have been gamed and Jim's nomination is one of the gamed nominations. So even if he wins, he doesn't really win. Please see the thread on the issues surrounding the 2015 Hugo awards.

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You are saying what? Even if he wins he still wins whether his nomination was or was not gamed. I hope he wins, just to see the look of disgust in your face.
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You are saying what? Even if he wins he still wins whether his nomination was or was not gamed. I hope he wins, just to see the look of disgust in your face.
Hahahahaha!
I hope he wins too.
Personally, I take every awards "show" whether it's literature, movies or games with a huuuuuge grain of salt anyways. They're all gamed somehow or other.
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Posted on March 20, 2015 by Benedict

I’m going to be going to the London Eastercon this year! It’s on from 3-6 April at the Park Inn at Heathrow. Schedules aren’t finalised but I should be on the ‘Watching the Detectives’ panel on the Monday 6th – everything else is up in the air. Will post more when I have the details.

Jim Butcher’s also going to be there (and on the same panel), so I’m hopefully going to get to meet him for the first time, which is pretty exciting. Other than that I’ll be wandering around on the Monday, so if you want to meet up, send me a message!


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The panellists began by stating that editors have been saying for over 10 years now, that Urban Fantasy is dead.

Then they suggested that perhaps what editors were really talking about was Paranormal Romance.

I think there are plenty of readers out there who would disagree with both statements, hmm?

The rest of this article can be read at deborahjay.
Sometimes I still don't know exactly how to differentiate the two.

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But some PNR can be pretty strong on world building too, no? Well, I don't read a lot on both accounts, so I can't argue much.
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It can be pretty strong, maybe -- but the differentiating factor is, what is the focus, i.e. is the book about the world building, with a heavy dose of romance on the side, or is it about the romance, with a heavy dose of world building?

What is the plot?
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You are saying what? Even if he wins he still wins whether his nomination was or was not gamed. I hope he wins, just to see the look of disgust in your face.
Any book on either pathetic puppies list that wins only means that they were used and they were not truly deserving of a Hugo. These groups are using these books to game the system and to embarrass anyone they put up for nomination. I'm hoping that Butcher does not win as it's a black eye if he does. These two pathetic puppies groups put up books for the Hugo that would never have gotten award other than being in the list they used to game the system.
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Any book on either pathetic puppies list that wins only means that they were used and they were not truly deserving of a Hugo. These groups are using these books to game the system and to embarrass anyone they put up for nomination. I'm hoping that Butcher does not win as it's a black eye if he does. These two pathetic puppies groups put up books for the Hugo that would never have gotten award other than being in the list they used to game the system.
Thank you for explaining it in so much detail. I didn't know that any book automatically becomes not truly deserving of a Hugo simply by the fact that it is on a puppies list. Let's see next year, they should put only books on the puppies list that are deserving of a Hugo. Would you still call that gamed? Of course you wouldn't. You only call it gaming the system when it is convenient for you. It is also convenient for you to post nonsense anti-Butcher propaganda in a thread that is dedicated to .... tada .... *drumroll* ... Jim Butcher and his works. It is not like you don't like Butcher, you say so openly that you do enjoy his books. That should be award worthy all by itself. Wow, look, this book is enjoyed by JS Wolf.

And yes, if you didn't catch that, there is some sarcasm in what I said. Do I think that it is a gigantic waste to argue with you? Oh, absolutely. Somebody gotta do it though.
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That explains the look, it is indeed in the order of 'please shut up'. He was longing for his bed.
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The pic included some text about a lack of fudge at the conference, which I didn't include in my post because it made no sense to me. Maybe he was annoyed at finding out that there was no fudge!!
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It appears as if he just might be having a bad hair day (you know, that British climate!). Perhaps that's the reason for the annoyed look?!
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I believe that you are correct!

I second that. It is okay to be up for 30 hours, IF you chose to do so. But not if it is forced upon you.

Plane out of fuel? Reminds me of this:

- Do you know where the on/off button is?
- Do you know where the fuel cap is?

If you know, then it is funny, if not, then you missed what Bill Engvall was doing there ...
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