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Old 09-25-2014, 03:45 AM   #526
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:06 AM   #527
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Yeah, but what you're failing to factor in (if you're a typical Kindle user) is how much profit your heavy usage generates for Amazon in book sales. So, for heavy users who buy mostly from the Kindle store, Amazon could actually give the Voyage away and still make money. That's why Kindle prices dropped so much from the original model prices -- that and the technology became much cheaper over the years.
Why should I take that into account, I am reading more and paying less than when I was reading paper books, I have no objection at all to a company making a profit on a quality service that they are providing me.

Also, I think your numbers are flawed unless you are including several years to cover the cost of the hardware as the amount of people who Amazon would make money from in a year based on giving away this model would seem to be a fairly low subset of heavy users.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:25 AM   #528
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So, for heavy users who buy mostly from the Kindle store, Amazon could actually give the Voyage away and still make money.
Not a bad idea Maybe they could offer discounts on the hardware depending on how many ebooks were purchased in the previous 12 months (obviously excluding freebies). That would be nice
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:53 AM   #529
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Not a bad idea Maybe they could offer discounts on the hardware depending on how many ebooks were purchased in the previous 12 months (obviously excluding freebies). That would be nice
Something like that will appear in due time, I would not be surprised if Amazon deferred the price of the least expensive Kindle provided you buy 50 books during a year. Imagine the impact of a Free Kindle offer. "We just want you to read", who could argue with a slogan like that?
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:07 AM   #530
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Edit: oops guess I will have to go in time out. Did not see Harry's post in time. I will put a spoiler around original post.

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I thought one of Hachette's complaints is that Amazon is pricing too high.
No, that is not Hachette, but Authors United - they complain about Amazon removing discounts ...

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Old 09-25-2014, 07:13 AM   #531
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Something like that will appear in due time, I would not be surprised if Amazon deferred the price of the least expensive Kindle provided you buy 50 books during a year. Imagine the impact of a Free Kindle offer. "We just want you to read", who could argue with a slogan like that?
I wasn't going to be quite that generous I was thinking maybe something like 50 books purchased in a year = £20 off a Kindle, 100 books = £50 off (the current prices in the UK are basic: £59; PW:£109; Voyage: £169)
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No, that is not Hachette, but Authors United - they complain about Amazon removing discounts ...

That's not a political post . The ones I'm talking about have now been deleted. The posters know who they are (not you!).
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That's not a political post . The ones I'm talking about have now been deleted. The posters know who they are (not you!).
Oh, ok. I wasn't sure. I did not see the deleted posts obviously.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:57 AM   #534
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Not a bad idea Maybe they could offer discounts on the hardware depending on how many ebooks were purchased in the previous 12 months (obviously excluding freebies). That would be nice
Or perhaps a discount for Prime members. At the very least, they should offer free overnight shipping for prime members who pre-order a new Kindle at launch. That would be a cool perk.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:17 AM   #535
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In the UK, Prime includes free next day delivery.
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Does anyone have any idea what FW the basic Kindle will now have?
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Does anyone have any idea what FW the basic Kindle will now have?
Given that it's a variant of the Touch, it's almost certain to be 5.something. That will bring all the eInk Kindles up to firmware v5, which will probably make life easier for Amazon.
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Add another K4 Basic to your collection. It appears Staples (at least) still has them in stock.

http://www.staples.com/Kindle-WiFi-w...product_984297
Hmmm -- extremely tempting! However, since I already have a "spare K4" that I've switched over to, adding another seems to be pushing it, even for me. But it *is* still tempting......
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I added it to my cart and Amazon offered me $40 gift card and 6 month financing with their store card. I'm Thinking about it.
I ordered mine on the 20th and got the same deal. It won't arrive until the first week of December (non-Prime free "slow" shipping). I see that they aren't offering the $40 gift card any more so am glad that I ordered when I did thanks to your post! Am going to use the gift card plus other credit card rewards points towards a case.

Figured I'd order it and then take my time deciding on what to do (can always cancel before it ships). Am coming from a K3 keyboard. Have mostly been reading on my android phone/tablet but really like the eink reader. With the light and the buttons the Voyage looks like my next toy.
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