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Old 01-07-2017, 12:45 PM   #496
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That's odd; I can only install K4PC 1.17.

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Starting with version 1.19, Kindle for PC will download books in KFX format and display them with enhanced typesetting.

The various files that make up the KFX format are all present, but named differently compared with an e-ink Kindle. Here is the same book after downloading to both platforms.

Kindle Paperwhite 2:
  • Perfect State (Kindle Single)_B00UZSTXL4.kfx (encrypted main container)
  • Perfect State (Kindle Single)_B00UZSTXL4.sdr/assets/voucher (DRM voucher)
  • Perfect State (Kindle Single)_B00UZSTXL4.sdr/assets/metadata.kfx (metadata container)
  • Perfect State (Kindle Single)_B00UZSTXL4.sdr/assets/attachables/CR!AX7PNNAM616C90FBFYKZ53GVC0QK.kfx (resource container)

Kindle for PC 1.19:
  • B00UZSTXL4_EBOK/amzn1.drm-voucher.v1.cd614ffd-319f-4b9e-99b7-238c6fe78f1e.voucher (DRM voucher)
  • B00UZSTXL4_EBOK/B00UZSTXL4_EBOK.azw (encrypted main container)
  • B00UZSTXL4_EBOK/CR!6AS14VN94H79K68RG9EKT09T41N0.azw.res (resource container)
  • B00UZSTXL4_EBOK/CR!SNRJN8W7KX07Z8MVGN4AMWXSFR3E.azw.md (metadata container)
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:32 PM   #497
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Sorry, but that message about no DRM is no longer there for all Tor eBooks.

https://www.amazon.com/Great-North-R...3810973&sr=1-9
The (actually available) kindle edition of that book shows published by Del Rey, not Tor.

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That's odd; I can only install K4PC 1.17.
Kindle for PC 1.19 is in the early stages of being rolled out. People have reported being automatically updated to it in other threads here and on Alf's blog. You can download it here if you want to try it:

http://amazon.com/kindlepcdownload-accessibility-beta
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:36 PM   #498
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:37 PM   #499
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The kindle edition of that book shows published by Del Rey, not Tor.



Kindle for PC 1.19 is in the early stages of being rolled out. People have reported being automatically updated to it in other threads here and on Alf's blog. You can download it here if you want to try it:

http://amazon.com/kindlepcdownload-accessibility-beta
The version listed for download on Amazon.com is v1.17, which is why I was confused.
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Sorry, but that message about no DRM is no longer there for all Tor eBooks.

https://www.amazon.com/Great-North-R...3810973&sr=1-9
I get a not available for purchase message for this link.
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I get a not available for purchase message for this link.
I blame Amazon's very poor not at all advanced search for that. Amazon.com should have been showing Tor eBooks for the US and not the UK.

The DRM messages is in the description of US Tor eBooks but unlimited usage in the details no longer exists.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:38 PM   #502
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I doubt that there is much interest in moving books in KFX format between kindle devices.
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The DRM messages is in the description of US Tor eBooks but unlimited usage in the details no longer exists.
That's exactly what I said before.

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Books from publisher Tor Books have this in the book description - "At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied". I guess that's not true now. This book has that phrase, but not "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited".

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Kings-Sto...3807981&sr=1-5
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Books from publisher Tor Books have this in the book description - "At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied". I guess that's not true now. This book has that phrase, but not "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited".

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Kings-Sto...dp/B003P2WO5E/
Same, but a slightly different phase for publisher Baen
"At the publisher's request, this title is sold without DRM (Digital Rights Management)".

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Wolve...dp/B01N4K3XSZ/

But "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited" also appears here but perhaps not on all Baen books
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Under product details, a DRM free book will say

Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Okay, I can sleep through 2017 now. I learned my New Thing nine days into the year!

(I had to go to the 100 Best Seller Free list to find one, however.)
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@jhowell. The possibility of kfx support being added to the PW1 and even older Kindles has been raised in another thread.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=79

I suspect the Hardware is the problem and assume that Amazon is unlikely to do this even for the PW1 let alone older devices.

If you care to comment I would be interested in your opinion. And of course in the opinion of others familiar with kfx and the hardware.
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@jhowell. The possibility of kfx support being added to the PW1 and even older Kindles has been raised in another thread.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=79
I'm going to admit, I certainly did not take that comment as anything more than musing, not mentioning a possibility that isn't supported by anything from Amazon, at least, not that I know of. There's a hell of a lot of updating that could be done, to the older eInks, long before KFX, of all things. Just bringing them up to KF8 would be a significant change in the right direction.

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Agreed. That they've done what they have, to the K3's, etc., is, in my eyes, remarkable.

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If you care to comment I would be interested in your opinion. And of course in the opinion of others familiar with kfx and the hardware.
On this topic, I really have no additional information than the consumer on the street, but I have no reason to believe that this upgrade will occur. After all, they've embraced media queries to make books function, to some level, on the older devices. If nothing else, at least they haven't abandoned the older devices--like a certain major device manufacturer that we all know.

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I'm going to admit, I certainly did not take that comment as anything more than musing, not mentioning a possibility that isn't supported by anything from Amazon, at least, not that I know of.
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Agreed. Perhaps using the word possiblity was putting it a little too high. It is however an interesting topic for musing, a much more appropriate word.
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What was really remarkable was when Sony added ADE to the PRS-500.
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I'm going to admit, I certainly did not take that comment as anything more than musing, not mentioning a possibility that isn't supported by anything from Amazon, at least, not that I know of.
That's all it was. Just a kind of far out what if...



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What was really remarkable was when Sony added ADE to the PRS-500.
It kind of was. Didn't they have to be physically sent in to have the upgrade done (IIRC)?
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