New 13.3" Onyx Boox. Rumours, prototype specs, first pictures

[Nossy23]

So, is it possible to save annotations and move them from the device to my desktop computer?

[Question Mark]

Originally Posted by Nossy23

So, is it possible to save annotations and move them from the device to my desktop computer?

Apparently so according to Booxtor in post #469 of this thread:

Concerning annotations and scribbles in a PDF document. The original document remains unchanged. You can create a new PDF document and export all your drawings , handwritten annotations , highlighting etc in a new PDF and transfer it to PC or share this changed PDF with others. Additionally you can export all your text annotations including highlighted citations in a TXT file and use it separately.

[joblack]

Originally Posted by Question Mark

Apparently so according to Booxtor in post #469 of this thread:

As far as I have read it creates a second pdf with a prefix in the name. I haven't checked it, though.

[Question Mark]

Originally Posted by joblack

As far as I have read it creates a second pdf with a prefix in the name. I haven't checked it, though.

That was my understanding, too. Which would seem to mean that one would want plenty of storage space if one is going to be frequently annotating heavy pdf files.

Fortunately, with its internal capacity and micro-sd capabilities, the Boox Max seems to have enough memory capacity to make this viable. The same might not be true of the GoodEreader device with its limited internal memory.

[joblack]

Originally Posted by Question Mark

That was my understanding, too. Which would seem to mean that one would want plenty of storage space if one is going to be frequently annotating heavy pdf files.

Fortunately, with its internal capacity and micro-sd capabilities, the Boox Max seems to have enough memory capacity to make this viable. The same might not be true of the GoodEreader device with its limited internal memory.

I have put in a 128 GByte microSD card. That's enough for a lot of PDFs ...

[machinogodzilla]

Originally Posted by Booxtor

Onyx is working on K-Reader now, which will be successor of Neo reader. It should be introduced soon. K-Reader uses a different engine which is much more faster and should support opening and working with multiple documents. Currently Neo Reader works ok, but for some documents it is quite slow and does not support multi documents, which could be important for academical reading..

Awesome news! Working with multiple documents, one of the major missing features finally finding its way to Onyx Hopefully all models not just Max, right?

[Jayjee]

Hi,

has anybody tried (scanned) PDFs of music scores, e.g. with the app MobileSheets?
Anybody tried Gmail, a Calendar app, a Contact app?

Thanks a lot!
Best,
Jan

[stardest]

Originally Posted by joblack

I have put in a 128 GByte microSD card. That's enough for a lot of PDFs ...

So the Onyx Boox Max can read a 128GB micro-SD card? I thought it can only read up to 32GB.

[joblack]

Originally Posted by stardest

So the Onyx Boox Max can read a 128GB micro-SD card? I thought it can only read up to 32GB.

Officially only 32GB but if you format it with fat32 it works with higher space values.

[Booxtor]

Originally Posted by netgeo

Hi Booxtor,

I've asked here before and I've emailed Onyx also but got no reply.
Do we have any news about the second batch of Max?
Just for us who preordered to have an idea.

TIA

Hi,
the second batch of Max will be in production next week and we expect to get it in the second week of June. Currently factory is occupied by manufacturing of Onyx 6" model for a big Chinese wholesaler.

Originally Posted by desk7

Dear Booxtor,
After enabling usb debugging on the device, I've tried to install adb drivers for the device but I wasn't able to.
I have also modified the .inf file of google usb driver adding the Hardware_ID of Boox Max but the adb tool always says: "List of devices attached: " and then nothing!
I tried to install drivers in windows safeboot mode, I changed USB cable, USB port but nothing changed!
I use Windows 10 64 bit and I only have USB 3.0 ports.
Could you help me, please?
Thank you

Sorry, I don't have much experience with Win10 (currently I am not going to change from W7 64). The problem could be in your USB3.0. ports. There are lots of reported problems trying to use ADB and USB3.0. I've found this workaround for similar problem:
".. Reinstall the Android driver while you're in recovery mode. Even though you installed it while the device was booted and it was recognized, now that you're in recovery mode it won't be recognized anymore. And you can't make it automatically find the Android driver in the driver folder-- you have to select it manually.

1) On your Windows desktop, Go to your Control Panel then Device Manager.
2) You should see Android Phone under Other Devices with a Yellow ! mark on it.
3) Right click on it and choose "Update Driver Software"
4) Choose "Browse my computer", then "Let me pick from a list."
5) If you see categories, select "Android Device", then select "Android ADB Interface".
6) The driver will install and you can now run the update with ADB.
"
I could not test it myself since I cannot reproduce your issue on my PC. I hope it will work for you.

[Drew22]

Hi Booxtor,

now a somewhat trivial question. The standby and turn off pictures are so boring. How can one replace them? I could not find the file where they've been saved.

One more thing. I tried the export function for one's annotated .pdfs and it is pretty cool, but the resulted file is huge, over 26 times bigger (2.3 Mb to 61.7 Mb). It is true the text has 63 pages, and it was heavily annotated and underlined. I guess, a more economical use of underlines and handwriting should render a much "slender" exported document. On the other hand, the .txt exported annotations can be a practical feature for students, demanding little memory (a few hundreds kb) and offering a shortcut to key paragraphs and own observations.

[joblack]

After the update I had some complete freeze ups (had to restart the complete device) with the Neo Reader. I know it's still beta but Onyx might look on it to fix the problems.

[netgeo]

Thansk for the reply Booxtor, that is good news!

[desk7]

Originally Posted by Drew22

Hi dear e-reader fans,
...
11. As far as I can determine, Scribble doesn’t recognize “levels of pressure” or the pen inclination. One can only change the thickness of the writing. Therefore the device is not suitable for drawings. Maybe Booxtor has another answer. Just write him on his webpage.
...
the virtual keyboard, which I find cumbersome.

I experienced that Onyx Scribble does recognize levels of pressure, I don't say how many but it does.

I've successfully replaced the defalut keyboard with Google Handwriting Input

Originally Posted by Wong McGregor

The range of bluetooth keyboards is much more limited, especially with respect to quality (eg. mechanical or ergonomic) keyboards which can also therefore be expensive. I've already started exploring other options which I'll post about if they prove fruitful.

An option would be nice but I wonder whether one could use USB host mode unknowingly, so I guess there are complications, which I hope can be resolved.

If you want to use your own keyboard, you could use something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Nulaxy-Wired-K...ct_top?ie=UTF8
Another type of solution:
http://www.amazon.com/KeyShair-Bluet...RFDK002A76KHP5
I don't know if they work well, but these devices or something like that could be a solution.

Originally Posted by Booxtor

Sorry, I don't have much experience with Win10 (currently I am not going to change from W7 64). The problem could be in your USB3.0. ports. There are lots of reported problems trying to use ADB and USB3.0. I've found this workaround for similar problem:
".. Reinstall the Android driver while you're in recovery mode. Even though you installed it while the device was booted and it was recognized, now that you're in recovery mode it won't be recognized anymore. And you can't make it automatically find the Android driver in the driver folder-- you have to select it manually.

1) On your Windows desktop, Go to your Control Panel then Device Manager.
2) You should see Android Phone under Other Devices with a Yellow ! mark on it.
3) Right click on it and choose "Update Driver Software"
4) Choose "Browse my computer", then "Let me pick from a list."
5) If you see categories, select "Android Device", then select "Android ADB Interface".
6) The driver will install and you can now run the update with ADB.
"
I could not test it myself since I cannot reproduce your issue on my PC. I hope it will work for you.

Thanks for the answer. I will try this way as soon as possible but I need some information: how can I enter recovery mode on the onyx?

[jlark]

FYI, ContentBrowser (the home launcher) phones home a lot. It:

1. sends this raw data

{"last":null,"oauth_key":"LYCAODjoVdRJjXYCwrxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx","installation_id":"23cd4e14-3916-4095-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx","v":"a1.3.1"}

to port 8253, to IPs such as 54.85.229.50 and 54.85.232.127 (which is rather interesting because whois says they belong to facebook).

There seems to be no reply from the server, it just listens on that port very much passively.

2. tries to connect over https to IPs such as 52.71.214.56 / 52.72.210.46 / 54.84.40.56 / 54.88.251.91 / 54.152.122.98 etc., which are all amazon ec2 instances, with a twist: their only open ports are 443 and 8253.

I didn't manage to intercept that traffic, but I'm sure it's connecting to `api.parse.com`, as it's the only DNS request that stands out and the ip range seems to match.

3. POSTs binary data to `http://alog.umeng.com/app_logs`, with the headers:

X-Umeng-UTC:     1464282824227                                                             
X-Umeng-Sdk:     Android/5.5.3 ContentBrowser/+(10555+-+980869c)+Max/4.0.4+B3581136xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

This seems to be an apache thrift binary message, but I didn't bother to set up a server and decode it. Incidentally, umeng is listed in this popular hosts file.


[xxxs are my attempt at anonymisation]