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Old 07-31-2010, 10:10 PM   #466
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So what you are telling me is that the "ePub standard" isn't really a standard at all. Did I understand this wrong? Or maybe individuals companies can make their own "epub standard". I'm starting to get confused, please enlighten me.
What I am telling you is that iBooks deviates from the standard by modifying the ePub.
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Old 08-01-2010, 04:59 AM   #467
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What I am telling you is that iBooks deviates from the standard by modifying the ePub.
What part of the standard is iBooks violating?
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:18 AM   #468
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So what you are telling me is that the "ePub standard" isn't really a standard at all. Did I understand this wrong? Or maybe individuals companies can make their own "epub standard". I'm starting to get confused, please enlighten me.
ePub files conform to a common standard, but companies vary the Digital Rights Management layer that they wrap around them.

We were getting to a reasonably clear situation where everyone using ePub who wanted to add DRM was applying Adobe's ADEPT version, but over the last year it's got more confused with B&N and Apple applying their own variants to lock people into their own stores.

The ePub format itself should work on any ePub device if you have the rights to the file, but as with any standard there are files that deviate from it in some areas, and the standard itself is evolving. The issues with conflicting DRM schemes vastly outweigh issues with deviations in the underlying ePub file.

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Old 08-01-2010, 09:05 AM   #469
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What part of the standard is iBooks violating?
When you put an ePub eBook into iTunes, iTunes adds a file to the ePub that is not part of the standard. iTunes does this for use with iBooks. the file is iTunesMetadata.plist. This file is not part of the ePub standard and it not used at all by ADE. It could be possible that Calibre doesn't understand this file and therefore isn't dealing well with it.
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Thanks for the link. Never bothered to look, since I was using Kindle. Looks like a lot of people involved, but it almost seems like the "Wild, Wild West" from what I saw (think usa in the late 1800's).

I assumed from what everyone was saying in the forums it was a standard, but what I see is that it is not really that, it's something a company can "extend" to do whatever they want (i.e. Apple, B&N, etc.).
ePub is a standard much like HTML is a standard. However, companies implement standards differently. You will see differences in how the major web browsers display HTML. You will also see differences in how the ebook reader companies display ePubs on their devices.

ePub and other ebook formats are much like HTML in the sense that they are "mark up languages" meaning that text is marked (formatted) by adding standardized tags. But like HTML, not everyone interprets and/or implements the mark up the same.

There is also the DRM implementation which is discussed in other posts above.
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When you put an ePub eBook into iTunes, iTunes adds a file to the ePub that is not part of the standard. iTunes does this for use with iBooks. the file is iTunesMetadata.plist. This file is not part of the ePub standard and it not used at all by ADE. It could be possible that Calibre doesn't understand this file and therefore isn't dealing well with it.
Does the standard prohibit extra files?
If not, what is Apple doing wrong?
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:58 PM   #474
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I am sure this has been asked and answered but will inquire anyway. I am ordering the K3 for my hubby and want to know if I can share some of my Amazon purchased books with him by download from my Amazon Kindle page. Thanks for your kind help.
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Old 08-01-2010, 04:00 PM   #475
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I am sure this has been asked and answered but will inquire anyway. I am ordering the K3 for my hubby and want to know if I can share some of my Amazon purchased books with him by download from my Amazon Kindle page. Thanks for your kind help.
You will be adding the new Kindle to your account, I assume. He can download anything.
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YEs... assuming you have a single Amazon account or at least register his kindle to your Amazon account.. If you each have your own account it won't work.

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