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[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Phogg

Rigid aluminum frame including transparent aluminum faceplate.

"Transparent aluminum"?

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by HarryT

"Transparent aluminum"?

Transparent Aluminum, created on a Mac in 1984.

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by HarryT

"Transparent aluminum"?

Al[2]O[3], pure crystals are transparent. (Natural sapphires are the same formula, but with some impurities to give the colour.)

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Al[2]O[3], pure crystals are transparent. (Natural sapphires are the same formula, but with some impurities to give the colour.)

Aluminium oxide is not aluminium; it's misleading to call it so. When people talk about aluminium, it's reasonable to suppose that they're referring to the metallic element, rather than a compound which contains it.

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Aluminium oxide is not aluminium; it's misleading to call it so. When people talk about aluminium, it's reasonable to suppose that they're referring to the metallic element, rather than a compound which contains it.

As someone else commented "Transparent Aluminium" is really a term from Star Trek. And even in that fictional universe, it isn't pure aluminium, it's a material with some of the attributes of aluminium (density, say) but transparent.

However, if someone talks about a screen cover of transparent aluminium, my bet is that they mean a sapphire (Al2O3) cover, for its scratch-resistance.

[HarryT]

Yes, my 20-year-old Swiss watch has a sapphire (aluminium oxide) crystal, and (unlike the rest of the watch) there's not a mark on it after 20 years of being worn. I can, in all honesty, however, say that it would never have occurred to me to refer to it as "transparent aluminium" .

[Katsunami]

Some camera manufacturers are creating camera's containing sapphire screens, especially in high-end or weather proof camera's. I've never seen anyone refer to it as transparent aluminum. As you say, they just call it a sapphire screen.

[MikeB1972]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Aluminium oxide is not aluminium; it's misleading to call it so. When people talk about aluminium, it's reasonable to suppose that they're referring to the metallic element, rather than a compound which contains it.

But Transparent Aluminium is a much better name than Aluminium oxynitride for marketing

I mean, I'm pretty sure gorilla glass isn't made from gorillas.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by MikeB1972

But Transparent Aluminium is a much better name than Aluminium oxynitride for marketing

I mean, I'm pretty sure gorilla glass isn't made from gorillas.

From the Addams Family...

Girl Scout: Is this made from real lemons?
Wednesday: Yes.
Girl Scout: I only like all-natural foods and beverages, organically grown, with no preservatives. Are you sure they're real lemons?
Pugsley: Yes.
Girl Scout: Well, I'll tell you what. I'll buy a cup if you buy a box of my delicious Girl Scout cookies. Do we have a deal?
Wednesday: Are they made from real Girl Scouts?

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

From the Addams Family...

LOL

Originally Posted by Phogg

This thread is reminding me of the muscle car mentality of sixties and seventies American Auto manufacturers.
They and a portion of the car buying public insisted that the public wanted ONLY ever bigger and faster cars. That there would never be more than a tiny niche market at best for anything different.

Then Honda and Toyota managed to wedge a few fuel efficient cars with a 250,000 mile engine life into the market. After people saw their neighbors drive the same car for seven or eight years with little maintenance the absurd insistence that car buyers unilaterally desired huge guzzlers began to garnish the ridicule it had always deserved.

Actually, the two major oil embargoes of the early 1970s that quadrupled our gasoline prices in just a few months ended the American muscle car era. Japanese automakers had introduced small, fuel efficient vehicles here and most people just turned up their noses at them. Then when gasoline shot up from $0.30 gal to $1.20 gal they started looking more seriously at those vehicles. Back then most Toyotas, Hondas, Subarus, etc. were very utility oriented with lackluster design and and few frills. Japanese automakers soon learned to make them more luxurious. After the embargoes, Detroit answered with the Chevy Vega, the Ford Pinto, and the AMC Gremlin! No competition at all for the Japanese cars! And as far as the muscle car went, well those big, heavy gasoline hogs cost a fortune to fuel after the embargoes, pumped huge amounts of pollution into the atmosphere, and quite frankly were the pits to drive. They were designed for the straight quarter mile drag race, not the curvy streets. Any decent European or Asian sports car made those Detroit muscle cars look terrible. They died out because they were dinosaurs that broke down constantly, were difficult to drive, and burned a house payment worth of gas every month.

[Apache]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Actually, the two major oil embargoes of the early 1970s that quadrupled our gasoline prices in just a few months ended the American muscle car era. Japanese automakers had introduced small, fuel efficient vehicles here and most people just turned up their noses at them. Then when gasoline shot up from $0.30 gal to $1.20 gal they started looking more seriously at those vehicles. Back then most Toyotas, Hondas, Subarus, etc. were very utility oriented with lackluster design and and few frills. Japanese automakers soon learned to make them more luxurious. After the embargoes, Detroit answered with the Chevy Vega, the Ford Pinto, and the AMC Gremlin! No competition at all for the Japanese cars! And as far as the muscle car went, well those big, heavy gasoline hogs cost a fortune to fuel after the embargoes, pumped huge amounts of pollution into the atmosphere, and quite frankly were the pits to drive. They were designed for the straight quarter mile drag race, not the curvy streets. Any decent European or Asian sports car made those Detroit muscle cars look terrible. They died out because they were dinosaurs that broke down constantly, were difficult to drive, and burned a house payment worth of gas every month.

So true. I remember people were paying more than list for Toyotas and having to wait for the dealer to get more in. I had a Chevy nova with a 350 that wasn't quite stock and I was getting 8 miles to the gallon on the highway.
Apache