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Old 09-03-2011, 08:13 PM   #436
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Obviously can't speak to the Nook but I can address some of your Kobo Touch points (which may have changed since you last looked?);



*Dictionary - Dictionary does seem to work on sideloaded ePubs (just tested now)
*Quilted Back - style is personal, so fair enough. I actually like it from a grip/feel point of view (not a fan of the gloss/reflective look SONY has gone with).
*Bugs - yes it has had some, but I personally didn't experience any so I'm unsure how many people these are affecting in the broader world, nor have other companies not had bugs (including SONY). A positive is most of these bugs seem to have been systematically fixed (including the storage error one) so I don't see this as a major negative.
*Company outside US - Why does this matter?
*Kobo Customer Support - if some of the posts in the Kobo forum is the norm, then yes the email customer support needs a lot of improvement. I'm not sure on the phone customer support you'd have access to in the US though. There have been some positive reports too. SONY customer support in my country has been abysmal for a range of products I've owned in the past so I actually placed a negative in the SONY column when considering my first eReader.



Anyway thanks for sharing. Interesting to hear peoples thoughts and competition is always good.
Oh good to know they finally gave your guys a working dictionary!
When it came out it didn't have one. It's also good know they fixed the storage error and battery issues alot were having.

Kobo Customer support has been like jumping through hoops for me in the pasts. They always resolved the issues but not before I had to explain myself to several different people, provide screenshots and want to pull my hair out. lol I'm just spoiled with Kindle's Customer service I guess.

The quilted back was a major issue for me. How do you keep it clean of cat hair, dust and pollen? It not like you can take it off and wash it can you? I have really bad allergies. If I touch the wrong thing I get hives. My K3 gets all kinds of dirt, hair stuck around the screen. It gets pushed in there with no way to clean it out.

I do not like Sony the company. We had issues in the past with them but the new reader is something I can't say no too. I don't think I will have to deal with their C.S. If I get a in store warranty or Squaretrade.
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Old 09-03-2011, 08:58 PM   #437
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Oh good to know they finally gave your guys a working dictionary!
When it came out it didn't have one. It's also good know they fixed the storage error and battery issues alot were having.

Kobo Customer support has been like jumping through hoops for me in the pasts. They always resolved the issues but not before I had to explain myself to several different people, provide screenshots and want to pull my hair out. lol I'm just spoiled with Kindle's Customer service I guess.

The quilted back was a major issue for me. How do you keep it clean of cat hair, dust and pollen? It not like you can take it off and wash it can you? I have really bad allergies. If I touch the wrong thing I get hives. My K3 gets all kinds of dirt, hair stuck around the screen. It gets pushed in there with no way to clean it out.

I do not like Sony the company. We had issues in the past with them but the new reader is something I can't say no too. I don't think I will have to deal with their C.S. If I get a in store warranty or Squaretrade.
If my other electronics with shiny plastics are any indication I'm not sure that will be a major advantage (for the SONY) with regards to cleanliness vs your other devices. A quick alcohol wipe or even just a damp cloth with a smig (technical term ) of soap/detergent works well enough for keeping my Kobo Clean, though it sounds like you'd be a candidate for a case/cover.

Anyway let us know how you go if and/when you get one (SONY Reader).
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:25 PM   #438
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What do you think the odds are that the browser is just completely useless outside of the "pure, ereader" experience?

Like, what if you can't save a page even though the wikipedia search gave you information on the word; if you try to download an unsupported format (anything but pdf, epub) for free from the web, it says "format not supported", no support for non western languages, so if you find yourself on a wikipedia page in a "weird" language, it's all just garbage or empty boxes instead of text.

Wifi is interesting only when you're near an access point. For example, you can't take this "to the beach" and still look up google and wikipedia...and not being android, you can't load local dictionaries and encyclopedias to use where there's no wifi.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:01 PM   #439
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What are the dimensions on this? I googled but did not find. I thought the nook looks oddly short but this looks too long. It's not going to fit in my jacket pocket.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:02 PM   #440
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In the video did he say £129? If so, isn't that about that same as €149?

After VAT it's almost the same as $149. Maybe $20 more which could be add'l customs/shipping costs.

Nice to see similar pricing so far.
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What do you think the odds are that the browser is just completely useless outside of the "pure, ereader" experience?

Like, what if you can't save a page even though the wikipedia search gave you information on the word; if you try to download an unsupported format (anything but pdf, epub) for free from the web, it says "format not supported", no support for non western languages, so if you find yourself on a wikipedia page in a "weird" language, it's all just garbage or empty boxes instead of text.

Wifi is interesting only when you're near an access point. For example, you can't take this "to the beach" and still look up google and wikipedia...and not being android, you can't load local dictionaries and encyclopedias to use where there's no wifi.
Dude, go buy yourself a tablet.

It's obvious an ereader is not for you.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:09 PM   #442
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What are the dimensions on this? I googled but did not find. I thought the nook looks oddly short but this looks too long. It's not going to fit in my jacket pocket.
According to PC World:
6.88 x 4.34 x .38
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:17 PM   #443
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What are the dimensions on this? I googled but did not find. I thought the nook looks oddly short but this looks too long. It's not going to fit in my jacket pocket.
The UK product page has the dimensions, 173 x 110 x 8.9 mm (6.8" x 4.3" x .35"). This is the narrowest 6" Reader, with the Kobo a close 2nd. It is only 8 cm taller than the Kobo Touch, but its narrow side bezel makes it appear taller.

See E-book Reader Matrix for a summary of what is (provisionally) known.
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Dude, go buy yourself a tablet.

It's obvious an ereader is not for you.
You just made me feel like the Annoying Orange. Happy?
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:01 AM   #445
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LRF does perform better than ePub on my PRS-650.
All my LRFs are faster and less power hungry than any ePub.
LRFs precalculate page info. It splits the text into hundreds of HTML files, based on the various font size options. This way, the it just grabs the next file in the archive, when you turn a page. Much quicker and lower resources needed.

For epub, it has to generate the screen on its own, when ever you change pages. If you have a poorly made ePub that is just one giant HTML file, this can really bog down things. I've had it where my 505 is chugging, for a couple seconds each time I change the page, because it is having to grab text starting with the next visible character, start laying out with reference to font size chosen and screen resolution, and then stopping when it reaches the limit for what can be shown on the screen. When you have one giant file, it has to keep the entire thing in memory, and parse further and further into it, every time you change page.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:49 AM   #446
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The UK product page has the dimensions, 173 x 110 x 8.9 mm (6.8" x 4.3" x .35"). This is the narrowest 6" Reader, with the Kobo a close 2nd. It is only 8 cm taller than the Kobo Touch, but its narrow side bezel makes it appear taller.

See E-book Reader Matrix for a summary of what is (provisionally) known.
Ok, it's not as tall as it looks. I think they could've shrunk it a bit more vertically, but hey..
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:55 AM   #447
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Ok, it's not as tall as it looks. I think they could've shrunk it a bit more vertically, but hey..
It's shorter then the K3
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It's shorter then the K3
The k3 has a keyboard. The sony doesn't have that excuse
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I'm spreading this around - mainly because I can't somehow bring myself to believe .

But this was at a launch [ we having one in UK I wonder ?]

From WendyH in the Sony section :-

"The Sony guy that I spoke to said that as there would still be no Sony Store in Australia, the only way you could obtain books via wifi in Australia was through Google or the library. He may have been wrong, but he said you could not buy books using the browser. I asked him about other stores such as Borders and Kobo, and he said you would not be able to buy from them using wifi.

I asked what was the point of having wifi then and he said you could use it to look things up about whatever you were reading e.g. find out more info about something written in the book." Quote, WendyH.

So, what is the point.
From this, it seems that even if Sony do eventually open the famous Sony bookstore.... you still won't be able to buy from Waterstones etc.. ?

Gordon Bennett.......
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