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Old 12-07-2010, 10:30 AM   #31
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Ok think of it like this there are two store near your house. The both sell the brands you like and products you buy on a monthly basis and the prices are pretty much the same. One store is a little bit closer so you do all your shopping there, makes sense, same product, same price, it's closer.

Now the other store is running a 40% off sale on everything, Ok now let's head over to the other store to take advantage of the sale that is going on.

Oh by the way congrats on a great season for your Spartan's,

don't know if you like Basketball but a big game tonight agains my Syracuse Orange.
I had season tickets to MSU Basketball, Hockey, and Football. I'll be watching tonight. Izzo puts together a killer schedule and the biys are looking a bit tired. If they learn to take care of the ball then they are going to win it all. They could have beaten Duke but turned the ball over way too many times and still only lost by single digets.

We are going to have to agree to disagree (I think for the 9,000 time). I can buy books at a 40% discount the few times that books I want are on sale for that price. Then I can strip the DRM and put them on my Kindle. I don't have a problem with stripping DRM because I know that I am using the book on my one device for myself. The problem is that when I walk into a bookstore and I look at what is on sale, I never want any of it.
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Old 12-07-2010, 11:06 AM   #32
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Those discounts won't work with the Agency books. So if you read ebooks from them, the prices are same everywhere.
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funny I just brought my nook into Best Buy to test out the new text of the nook after the lastest update which made it bolder and it confirmed my choice of going with the nook, the Kindle's new Pearl screen just isn't that much better or even at all. I even asked an innocent bystander to compare and they said ehhh it's looks the same to me.

The point of ePub on the nook as opposed to the kindle isn't about the books sold at BN's , yes those are pretty much no different then the books sold at Amazon, it's the ability to shop at multiple places that sell their books with ePub format and the ability to check out books from the library.
And yes I know before everyone chimes in You can strip away any DRM etc. but with the nook, you don't have that worry, It's simple, download then sideload, no extra steps. That's the argument for having ePub.


to each his own I guess.
I've being in both sides of the "street" Nook user and now Kindle user so I can certainly provide a non passionated opinion about it, I think ... lol ...

Users and consumers in general are focusing on the hardware, the device only, and not on the books or material YOU like or YOU buy. It is not about how many offers B&N has or how cheap Amazon books can be. To support my point: I can' t find most of my IT books on B&N elibrary and even on Amazon sometimes they are too expensive or not even available for Kindle readers. Then I go to O'reilly and I can find the same ebook but in a bundle (you pay for the same book but you will download, DRM free, the MOBI, EPUB, PDF file, of course if available in such format which usually is) So why do I need a Nook? the Nook does not auto-rotate and I am not able to expand tables and images. I can do both even with the Kindle 3.

Why I would like to buy something in EPUB format just because it's on that specific format if I only have one only physical reader or device? It makes no sense to me. This is an issue only for people who lend from public libraries, but this is a personal choice; I don't lend books from public libraries, I don't find most of the stuff I need there and I prefer to buy because I need it LONG term.

So, validating what kind of books you like will allow you to narrow or weight your decision about the e-reader device. This is not just a black or white decision, because each person is different. Although and if you ask yourself honestly, Kindle 3 hardware is much better technically speaking than the Nook: lighter, better contrast and better battery life.

A Nook is a good device but I think it is not solid supported by a good elibrary. B&N needs to expand its collection much more.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:06 PM   #34
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I've being in both sides of the "street" Nook user and now Kindle user so I can certainly provide a non passionated opinion about it, I think ... lol ...

Users and consumers in general are focusing on the hardware, the device only, and not on the books or material YOU like or YOU buy. It is not about how many offers B&N has or how cheap Amazon books can be. To support my point: I can' t find most of my IT books on B&N elibrary and even on Amazon sometimes they are too expensive or not even available for Kindle readers. Then I go to O'reilly and I can find the same ebook but in a bundle (you pay for the same book but you will download, DRM free, the MOBI, EPUB, PDF file, of course if available in such format which usually is) So why do I need a Nook? the Nook does not auto-rotate and I am not able to expand tables and images. I can do both even with the Kindle 3.

Why I would like to buy something in EPUB format just because it's on that specific format if I only have one only physical reader or device? It makes no sense to me. This is an issue only for people who lend from public libraries, but this is a personal choice; I don't lend books from public libraries, I don't find most of the stuff I need there and I prefer to buy because I need it LONG term.

So, validating what kind of books you like will allow you to narrow or weight your decision about the e-reader device. This is not just a black or white decision, because each person is different. Although and if you ask yourself honestly, Kindle 3 hardware is much better technically speaking than the Nook: lighter, better contrast and better battery life.

A Nook is a good device but I think it is not solid supported by a good elibrary. B&N needs to expand its collection much more.

While I agree that currently BN's ebook library is more heavily geared towards the general reader and a little light in the IT/Tech area's. I 'm fairly confident that will change in a big way as their other digital platform they just launched recently, Nook Study, begins to grow and mature.
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While I agree that currently BN's ebook library is more heavily geared towards the general reader and a little light in the IT/Tech area's. I 'm fairly confident that will change in a big way as their other digital platform they just launched recently, Nook Study, begins to grow and mature.
Hopefully!

In the end it will benefit ALL OF US! Kindle and Nook users! Even better if at some point they decide to drop the DRM protection though I know I'm dreaming here., they will not. But still, current Nook's firmware makes it difficult to read technical books, something that with the small Kindle 3 is not so bad, because the auto-rotate feature.
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I don't think Amazon would have a problem with dropping the DRM. Amazon sells books without DRM. I think the problem is that Publishers want the DRM because they think that it protects the books.

They are probably right. I am going to guess that maybe 10% of the e-reading population knows that it is possible to strip DRM and convert formats. Probably 50% of that 10% use that capability.

Most folks will buy from the most convinient store. For the e-reaers tied to a store it makes sense to do so because the store maintains an archive of your books for you. I doubt that Amazon would lose a ton of business if they did not DRM books, they might actually pick up business if other e-readers read their format, think of what happened to sales at Amazon when the IPad was released.
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