Kindle 3 doesn't support WPA2?

[Tiersten]

Originally Posted by franklekens

There's some o' dem damn symbols in it too...

Are there " marks in there? Somebody mentioned that the Kindle doesn't like those in a WiFi password.

[franklekens]

Forget if there are, but I finally managed to connect. Only to go to facebook and have the device freeze on that. :-)

[Tiersten]

Ah cool. Great that you got it working.

Yeah. The browser is buggy. You updated to 3.0.1 yet?

[franklekens]

No, is that supposed to be much better?

[Tiersten]

Originally Posted by franklekens

No, is that supposed to be much better?

Apparently so. People are reporting less crashes and that it feels faster.

[jjesske]

On a different page someone posted that they contacted Kindle. The rep told him to hold the on key on for 20 seconds to reset the Kindle. This worked for me

[desertblues]

Originally Posted by haroldgh

Sadly it does not support enterprise WPA2 (with a username and password), so I can't get wireless access at work. Not a huge deal, but kind of a bummer.

I would try the reboot of 20 sec. Have you got the update to 3.0.3? That solved some issues with connections for me.
Your Kindle should be able to connect; phone or let Amazon phone you; I found them very helpfull.
Good luck

[Tiersten]

The Kindle doesn't do WPA2 Enterprise via the regular UI. Rebooting won't help it. Somebody hacked theirs to do it but that involves jailbreaking and then modifying the WPA supplicant configuration. You can't alter the settings for that via the UI. You have to do it via the shell.

[desertblues]

Originally Posted by Tiersten

The Kindle doesn't do WPA2 Enterprise via the regular UI. Rebooting won't help it. Somebody hacked theirs to do it but that involves jailbreaking and then modifying the WPA supplicant configuration. You can't alter the settings for that via the UI. You have to do it via the shell.

I stand corrected!

[Tiersten]

Originally Posted by desertblues

I stand corrected!

LOL Its okay.

WPA Enterprise is where you have a username and password to connect to a WiFi network. Each user would get their own username and password. You tend to only find this on company WiFi networks and never at home where you use the easier to administer WPA PreSharedKey system which is just a single password for everybody.

The reasoning being that if you're at home then the number of WiFi devices is fairly low and if really necessary, you can go around and change the password on all of them without too much hassle. In a company that might not be true and it'd be painful to go around to every laptop, PDA and cell phone changing the password because somebody left the company and now needs to be locked out.

Not many consumer devices actually support WPA Enterprise. They're capable of doing it but they generally don't have the UI to be able to alter the settings necessary.

[desertblues]

Thanks Tiersten; I guess the same goes for my mobile hotspot Mifi, with only one username + password.

[jbbrower]

Originally Posted by WilliamG

Yes yes. But seriously, I like being hidden. Just because. It's certainly no WORSE to hide an SSID.

I am a security consultant with so many certs it is not even funny. I do pen testing for credit unions and such... and you could not be more wrong! It is MUCH worse to hide an SSID! When you hide your SSID, your devices that you have configured to use this network have to send out wireless "are you there" packets that advertise to everyone, everywhere you go, what your "hidden" SSID is.

Think that is still not a big deal?! Just visit wigle.net and look up your SSID to see the exact GPS location of your home!

[WilliamG]

I'm not a security consultant, and I see no proof of what you're saying. MUCH worse to hide an SSID? How so? Because devices can have more trouble on occasion connecting to them? Not a problem for me. Because anyone can find them? Not a problem for me, either.

wigle.net does not find my SSID/GPS location, and yes - I registered there.

So from reading various sites on the matter, the problem is that the network is easily found when you hide an SSD. I AGREE with this, but truly, what difference does it make? I just like that my wireless network isn't there for the casual user to mistakenly click on. Call it a psychological thing, but I see no DOWNSIDE to hiding an SSID. I have no network performance degradation, for example.

Is there an upside to SSID hiding? No, of course not, except that people in the house next door don't have to keep seeing my SSID all the time.

Actually, I wish everyone would hide their damn SSIDs. I'm so sick of a huge list of SSIDs on my wireless list when I'm out and about.

[emalvick]

Originally Posted by WilliamG

I'm not a security consultant, and I see no proof of what you're saying. MUCH worse to hide an SSID? How so? Because devices can have more trouble on occasion connecting to them? Not a problem for me. Because anyone can find them? Not a problem for me, either.

wigle.net does not find my SSID/GPS location, and yes - I registered there.

So from reading various sites on the matter, the problem is that the network is easily found when you hide an SSD. I AGREE with this, but truly, what difference does it make? I just like that my wireless network isn't there for the casual user to mistakenly click on. Call it a psychological thing, but I see no DOWNSIDE to hiding an SSID. I have no network performance degradation, for example.

Is there an upside to SSID hiding? No, of course not, except that people in the house next door don't have to keep seeing my SSID all the time.

Actually, I wish everyone would hide their damn SSIDs. I'm so sick of a huge list of SSIDs on my wireless list when I'm out and about.

This has to be one of the best responses I've seen. It isn't so much a security thing as just an out of site thing. Why tempt a user to try your network when there are plenty of other visible networks. The typical (or perhaps atypical) hacker is going to go after a visible network if that is what is present anyway.

[Wizkid4U]

I tried everything there is in the books and here in the forum:
Followed procedures Users Guide Chapt 7 & 8 and
Kindle Support > Kindle (Latest Generation) > Wireless Issues
Corrective action taken:
• - Turn Wireless Off/On
• - Kindle Restart
• - Reset to Factory Defaults
• - Router Off/On
• - Upgraded Firmware from 3.0.2 to 3.0.3
• - Retried Password more than 20 times
• - Crosschecked Password spelling more than once (only numbers are used)
• - Set the router to No-Password setting – no Kindle connection possible
All other devices, two PCs and a LapTop, connect flawlessly also under no-password setting.

I then contacted Amazon Kindle Support. They called me back immediately and we had three sessions, one hour each, to check all the parameters there are. They had me insert some codes in order to read out the internal data of my kindle – all to no avail.
I was given a replacement Kindle within four days (shipment USofA -> Germany). Guess what? The same problems occurred on the new Kindle.
Finally I found the glitch. I had the following SSID in the router
Hottes_FRITZ!Box
and finally changed that to
HottesFRITZbox7170
leaving both the underscore (_) and the exclamation mark (!) out – and violá –it worked immediately.
Lesson learned: The Kindle does neither like Symbols in the Password nor in the SSID
all other devices do not bother, that’s why it was so difficult to identify the mistake.

Take care

Wizkid

P.S. I forgot and like to mention that the Amazon Support people were very fast, friendly and effective in their decisions. It certainly was a pleasure to work with them, despite the inconvenient reason for the contact