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HarryT · 06-25-2010, 06:21 AM

If you buy an Apple phone you have the hold it in the "approved" Apple way, I guess

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EowynCarter · 06-25-2010, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It doesn't actually affect me personally because, being left-handed, I hold the phone in my right hand, so it's the bottom right corner of the phone that's in my palm. It's only when you hold the phone in your left hand (as a right-handed person would do) that you see the problem.

Ah, weird, i'm left handed, and hold my phone in my left hand, unless i need to write.

And my low end smatphone have no problems with that

m-reader · 06-25-2010, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

It's sure looking that way. It's actually not a practical problem - you just have to hold the phone by its sides only. Do that and it's fine. But I'm sure there'll be those who will make out that it's the end of the world

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I'm rather surprised that it didn't show up in testing, because it's an immediately obvious effect. If you hold the phone by its edges, and then press your palm into the base of it, the signal slowly fades to absolutely nothing in about 15 sec. Take your palm away and it fades back in again to full strength in about the same time.

As a left handed person, I would have a big problem with this defect. As you said, it is really weird they didn't pick this up during testing.

m-reader · 06-25-2010, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Ah, weird, i'm left handed, and hold my phone in my left hand, unless i need to write.

And my low end smatphone have no problems with that

I'm totally south paw - I can't hold the phone to my right ear. Even if I have to use my left hand to write something down, I try to hold the phone up with my shoulder against the ear - or hold it pressed to my left ear with my right hand.
Yup, it looks weird.

HarryT · 06-25-2010, 07:30 AM

Good news; I spoke to Apple tech support, who in turn put me through to a "senior analyst" - who has said that he'll send me a free bumper!

Yoshi 1080 · 06-25-2010, 07:59 AM

I’m foreign, could somebody explain to me what a bumper is please? I searched Wikipedia but none of the definitions seem to match. Is that some sort of case for the antennaes?

BTW, Engadget said this problem probably didn’t occur during betatesting because the iPhones were hidden in cases. I guess a little less secrecy would have spared Apple from this fauxpas.

HarryT · 06-25-2010, 08:07 AM

The name "bumper" comes from the thing on the front of a car that protects it in low-speed collisions. Apple are using this name for a rubber protective strip that fits around the edges of the iPhone 4.

Yoshi 1080 · 06-25-2010, 08:34 AM

Thanks for the explanation! So essentially this Apple-branded bumper protects the iPhone from ... direct contact with the user. Well done Apple, well done.

Sonist · 06-25-2010, 08:21 PM

Of course, Jobs could have accused left-handed people of being lazy....

Or, He could have claimed that left-handed people are on their way out.

(I just ordered a 4" Super AMOLED Samsung Galaxy S - I'd guess I can hold it any way I want to).

Bremen Cole · 06-25-2010, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonist

Of course, Jobs could have accused left-handed people of being lazy....

Or, He could have claimed that left-handed people are on their way out.

(I just ordered a 4" Super AMOLED Samsung Galaxy S - I'd guess I can hold it any way I want to).

Lucky you! Enjoy your new phone!!!

Kolenka · 06-25-2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It's sure looking that way. It's actually not a practical problem - you just have to hold the phone by its sides only. Do that and it's fine. But I'm sure there'll be those who will make out that it's the end of the world

.

I'm rather surprised that it didn't show up in testing, because it's an immediately obvious effect. If you hold the phone by its edges, and then press your palm into the base of it, the signal slowly fades to absolutely nothing in about 15 sec. Take your palm away and it fades back in again to full strength in about the same time.

My phone doesn't have this problem but it feels obvious that the antenna is coated with something. I'm personally betting on a manufacturing snafu they will own up to down the road.

The Old Man · 06-26-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

From a BBC link Here

"Quote .....

Steve Jobs responded to a query about the problem from one owner by saying: "Just avoid holding it in that way."

All I can say is

This reminds me of the Weber and Fields Vaudeville act,
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this. What do you suggest?"
"Don't do that."

Gizmodo has also been reporting problems with the glass enclosure:
http://gizmodo.com/5571658/first-iph...-one+foot-drop

HarryT · 06-26-2010, 08:06 AM

There are lots and lots of very cheap iPhone 4 cases on eBay. I've ordered a couple of different ones to see what works best.

Bremen Cole · 06-26-2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolenka

My phone doesn't have this problem but it feels obvious that the antenna is coated with something. I'm personally betting on a manufacturing snafu they will own up to down the road.

I bet you are right. That would explain why some have the problem and some don't..... I am sure in the end it will be all right, but at the point Apple is not handling it right... to say the least....

scottjl · 06-26-2010, 04:26 PM

well. i had the reception problem. i took one of those silicone bracelets, you can wrap it around the iphone. it blocks the buttons but doesn't depress them. and my signal issue is resolved. cheaper than a "bumper" from apple. but disappointing they didn't resolve this before the phone was released. going to give it a few weeks for the various cases to be released then find one i like. i have to remove the band to plug it in and charge it, but not a big deal. on an up-note there are plenty of colors available. lol.

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06-25-2010, 06:21 AM	#31
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	If you buy an Apple phone you have the hold it in the "approved" Apple way, I guess .

06-25-2010, 07:30 AM	#35
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Good news; I spoke to Apple tech support, who in turn put me through to a "senior analyst" - who has said that he'll send me a free bumper!

06-25-2010, 07:59 AM	#36
Yoshi 1080 Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 204 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Device: iPad, iPhone, Mac	I’m foreign, could somebody explain to me what a bumper is please? I searched Wikipedia but none of the definitions seem to match. Is that some sort of case for the antennaes? BTW, Engadget said this problem probably didn’t occur during betatesting because the iPhones were hidden in cases. I guess a little less secrecy would have spared Apple from this fauxpas.

06-25-2010, 08:07 AM	#37
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The name "bumper" comes from the thing on the front of a car that protects it in low-speed collisions. Apple are using this name for a rubber protective strip that fits around the edges of the iPhone 4.

06-25-2010, 08:34 AM	#38
Yoshi 1080 Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 204 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Device: iPad, iPhone, Mac	Thanks for the explanation! So essentially this Apple-branded bumper protects the iPhone from ... direct contact with the user. Well done Apple, well done.

06-25-2010, 08:21 PM	#39
Sonist Apeist Posts: 2,126 Karma: 381090 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The sunny part of California Device: Generic virtual reality story-experiential device	Of course, Jobs could have accused left-handed people of being lazy.... Or, He could have claimed that left-handed people are on their way out. (I just ordered a 4" Super AMOLED Samsung Galaxy S - I'd guess I can hold it any way I want to).

06-26-2010, 08:06 AM	#43
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	There are lots and lots of very cheap iPhone 4 cases on eBay. I've ordered a couple of different ones to see what works best.

06-26-2010, 04:26 PM	#45
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	well. i had the reception problem. i took one of those silicone bracelets, you can wrap it around the iphone. it blocks the buttons but doesn't depress them. and my signal issue is resolved. cheaper than a "bumper" from apple. but disappointing they didn't resolve this before the phone was released. going to give it a few weeks for the various cases to be released then find one i like. i have to remove the band to plug it in and charge it, but not a big deal. on an up-note there are plenty of colors available. lol.

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