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Old 03-14-2010, 04:56 PM   #31
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　The “Eco Charge Mode” also helps reduce the rider’s environmental footprint. Someone riding 1,000 km a year in “Eco Charge Mode” will only emit 2.35 kg*4 of CO2 emissions. Compared with the “Power Mode,” which uses the most battery power, “Eco Charge” is an environmentally friendly riding mode that reduces CO2 emissions by approximately 35% (1.24 kg).

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CO2 equivalent amount based on the amount of household electricity used for charging, and the distance traveled on a single charge.
(No CO2 is emitted during riding)
Reference: If a rider travels 1,000 km per year using an SPL series ‘eneloop bike’ in “Eco Charge Mode,” an annual savings of approximately 20 kg in CO2 emissions can be achieved, compared to the average CO2 emissions value for the type 1 motor vehicles of Japan’s main three manufacturers (SANYO calculation).
So we have an approximate idea now.
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:46 PM   #32
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So we have an approximate idea now.
or at least a "claim"
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:00 PM   #33
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I find it ironic.
People are raving about Green Green Save the Planet. Stop using cars, start using bikes because they are environment friendly beasts. Then, all of sudden, I learn about a new beat. An electrical bike. A vehicle that requires electricity to charge it, thus adding to CO2 or whatever when charging up the battery and completely defeating the idea of environment friendly bike.
I don't see the problem in this. If one gets a hybrid bicycle and starts using the car less than surely this must be a win win situation both in health and environment.
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I don't see the problem in this. If one gets a hybrid bicycle and starts using the car less than surely this must be a win win situation both in health and environment.
It depends. It depends on what kind of climate/environmental impact generating the electricity causes.

Hybrid vehicles have a "hidden" environmental impact from both mining to get the rare-earth elements needed to create the batteries and in the disposal of those batteries when used up.

People have railed against nuclear power plants here in the U.S. for ages, but continue right along pumping coal-created CO2 into the atmosphere, probably a larger, longer term impact than figuring out how to store/dispose of nuclear waste....

I'm holding off on the hybrids til they are nuclear.
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I'm holding off on the hybrids til they are nuclear.
Yeah! And when you sit on them you grow 2 additional legs, so you can ride faster!
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Yeah! And when you sit on them you grow 2 additional legs, so you can ride faster!

Then I'll be a hybrid too.
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Hybrid vehicles have a "hidden" environmental impact from both mining to get the rare-earth elements needed to create the batteries and in the disposal of those batteries when used up.
Yes, it's replacing the battery pack every few years that's the primary "running cost" of this type of vehicle. The actual charging costs are completely negligible - a few cents per charge.
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no, but I have a horse and buggy!
But ... but ... don't those horses make METHANE???
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that would be cows. horses tend to be fairly non-farty
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Don't you worry about being run over in one of those? They are so "low down" that you're not very visible to traffic!
Yes, I am quite low to the ground on the trike. Because of the congestion in this area of the United States, most of my riding is on sidewalks or forest preserves or trails. Oh, and I have one of those very attractive tall flags as well. Crossing the street at busy intersections, I get off and walk it.... creates a larger image to the big vehicles.
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is that an odd angle to be at and hard on your stomach or back?
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The recumbant trike is wonderful on the body. Great lumbar support, handlebars is actually below the seat so your hands are by your bottom. Because you are somewhat reclined, there is no pressure on your esophagus which is wonderful for me. The pedaling seems easier as well... straight out in front of you.
I will see if I can locate a photo of the trike....
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that would be cows. horses tend to be fairly non-farty
Speak for your own horses!
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I know what they look like, I just thought it would be an awkward position
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Speak for your own horses!
been around 'em all my life and they are very very much non-farty in comparison. one of the stinkiest places (aside from chickens PEEEEWWWW!!!) going is around the bull chutes at rodeos... oh MAN!!!
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