Classic Update coming on Tuesday 22nd?

[stangri]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Oh, wait is this the second update since release?

Yes, it is -- if you download the signed updated as per instructions on B&N web-site now, you'll end up with 1.1.1.

[DaFlake]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Huh, wow, really? Like what? I think you are the first I've seen that said it was worse.

Oh, wait is this the second update since release?

Bookmarks used to work and now they don't. The color screen goes blank and won't "wakeup" from time to time where it worked before. I'm thinking about manually running the update again to see if I can get it to fix what is now screwed.

[stangri]

Originally Posted by Kolenka

Really? On something as complicated as a full software stack, that's pretty darn fast.

Not sure what you mean by a "full software stack" for a 30Mb update, but 3 business days is a lot of time for QA on a final build.

I have heard about the companies which do almost zero testing on the interim builds then yes, 3 days sounds about right.

[Kolenka]

If I was running a project, I'd make sure the full test suite ran against a patched device (30MB sounds like they issued a partial patch, rather than a full firmware image, which is riskier and can introduce regressions).

And if you have automation in the mix, the suite can be quite extensive depending on how long it's been built up, and what metrics you also capture (battery life, for example, or running stress testing to find the mean time it takes for the device to crash). From this standpoint, I'm talking about testing an actual mobile device where you 'own' the whole firmware.

The larger the project, and the larger the team, the more important it becomes to do full passes on final builds (and partial passes on interim builds instead to verify the fixes rapidly), especially when your patches aren't full copies of the firmware. I've seen stuff slip through many 'quality gates' only to be caught on the final full pass... especially when you have software running that can drastically affect the performance of the whole device.

[JanieGirl]

Originally Posted by porkupan

Perhaps you should watch what you are saying a little bit, how about that? Or one might think you are toting as a great deal something that is not even a 1% improvement over the worst ebook firmware ever.

I didn't notice that the page turns are "much faster". I will take your word for it though. The clock is a "major improvement"? Skipping the weird "Read" button? I think it's nothing compared to things that must have been done, but were not done. Those things have to do with improving the ebook reading experience.


I think it's a very small step in the right direction.

If PDF still reflow only (which makes most documents prepared for the Sony Reader and Kindle mostly unreadable)? Where are the navigation improvements? Where is the History? If you jump ahead via a hyperlink, how do you get back? Or do you have to bookmark every page before jumping a hyperlink or going to another chapter?

Try going to page 500 in a 600-page book without a table of contents! Do you notice any way to jump 10,20,50% of the book?

With this total crap of a firmware one might think that during the "release preparation process" the development was only focused on the B&N store interface, and the software developers, whoever they are, had never seen ebook readers made by other manufacturers before setting off to develop their own.

About the only redeeming qualities of this device are relatively good hardware design and Android, which makes us hope that one day someone will undertake an effort to port FBreaderJ for Android to use the nook's eInk display.

Either there is something wrong with your eyes or you don't have the update. I have seen the difference and it is in fact SPEEDIER than the previous 1.0. Turning pages is def an improvement. It's the same speed as the Kindle 2 now.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by JanieGirl

Either there is something wrong with your eyes or you don't have the update. I have seen the difference and it is in fact SPEEDIER than the previous 1.0. Turning pages is def an improvement. It's the same speed as the Kindle 2 now.

Well, I've seen people claim the Astak PP was faster than the Sony 505 and the Sony 300 is faster than the 505 and that the Kindle2 was faster than the Sony....ad-nauseum. They are all about the same as far as I'm concerned, not enough difference to mention. I suspect it's the same here, but do not have direct experience.

[Musicman]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Well, I've seen people claim the Astak PP was faster than the Sony 505 and the Sony 300 is faster than the 505 and that the Kindle2 was faster than the Sony....ad-nauseum. They are all about the same as far as I'm concerned, not enough difference to mention. I suspect it's the same here, but do not have direct experience.

I agree with you. I also do not care if product A is a nano second faster than Product B...

What I care about is while I am reading do the page turns interfere with my reading. That said the nooks, orginal firmware did not for me, and their update does make page turns quicker and also does not interfere with my reading.

[Diedrupo]

I don't know what people are complaining about. I got my Nook on the 24th and downloaded the firmware before trying anything out - and it seems to have corrected all of the problems people complained about before. I don't get the "formatting" message every time I open a book - only if I open a new book. If I open a book and then open another, then return to the previous book, no formatting message. Also, the page flips are quick, the touch screen is responsive once you figure out how to push it right (i admit i had issues when i first used it to log in, but i quickly figured out an easy way to touch it right every time), and the only really long wait was when it boots up - since it's always on, that's obviously not an issue.

Overall I love my Nook. I admit I have not played with other ereaders to compare, but I see nothing negative in the Nook to make me want to return it.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Diedrupo

I don't know what people are complaining about. I got my Nook on the 24th and downloaded the firmware before trying anything out - and it seems to have corrected all of the problems people complained about before. I don't get the "formatting" message every time I open a book - only if I open a new book. If I open a book and then open another, then return to the previous book, no formatting message. Also, the page flips are quick, the touch screen is responsive once you figure out how to push it right (i admit i had issues when i first used it to log in, but i quickly figured out an easy way to touch it right every time), and the only really long wait was when it boots up - since it's always on, that's obviously not an issue.

Overall I love my Nook. I admit I have not played with other ereaders to compare, but I see nothing negative in the Nook to make me want to return it.

[BigHeadDog]

mine dun have the 2nd update...dunno what's wrong with it...

[kennyc]

They need to figure out how to number the releases cause they seem to work by date and that just cause confusion. Also need to put it in zip format.

[slothrop]

Originally Posted by stangri

Supposedly 1.1.1 is out with some minor tweaks to B&N apps.

I wonder why 1.1.1 isn't being pushed out on the wireless network by B&N?

[rwaynecarter]

After reading this thread I looked at my software version and found it to be 1.1.1. I did not do anything to obtain this version, it is just there.

I have had this Nook since Dec. 14th and have only visited the "store" a couple of times.

So....it seems that the 1.1.1 update is automatic.

[jcar302]

Originally Posted by rwaynecarter

After reading this thread I looked at my software version and found it to be 1.1.1. I did not do anything to obtain this version, it is just there.

I have had this Nook since Dec. 14th and have only visited the "store" a couple of times.

So....it seems that the 1.1.1 update is automatic.

Not so sure about that.
While ours let us know the update was available, i still had to install it via wifi.

[slothrop]

Originally Posted by jcar302

Not so sure about that.
While ours let us know the update was available, i still had to install it via wifi.

Mine has not let me know the update is available. It has not updated. It does have 1.1.0 though, just not 1.1.1. I have even hit "Check for new B&N content" a few times, without luck.

I guess I will do the manual update today since I'm tired of waiting for my nook to notice that an update is available.