Who's your favorite anti-hero? - Page 3

zelda_pinwheel · 11-08-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

And one could argue that the ultimate anti-hero is Satan in Milton's Paradise Lost. He definitely gets the best lines and has a more consistent motivation.

that is the first thought that came into my mind when i saw this thread, as well. i always had more sympathy for him than for the other characters in that book.

Slite · 11-09-2009, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

that is the first thought that came into my mind when i saw this thread, as well. i always had more sympathy for him than for the other characters in that book.

Sympathy for the devil? Are you a Stones-fan Zelda?

AlexBell · 11-09-2009, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

And one could argue that the ultimate anti-hero is Satan in Milton's Paradise Lost. He definitely gets the best lines and has a more consistent motivation.

I can't beat that one, Patricia; but as I haven't read the book I would also like to nominate Becky Sharp. She's the only character in Vanity Fair for whom I have any respect.

Regards, Alex

Arjen · 11-09-2009, 06:19 AM

For me the perfect anti-heroes are FitzChivalry from the Farseer trilogy by Robin Hobb and Nevare Burvelle from the Soldier Son trilogy. Even though they're the main characters, there's just no end to their misfortune in these series.

WillAdams · 11-09-2009, 07:30 AM

Krystian Galaj wrote:
>Corwin of Amber, with whose eyes we look at first five volumes
>of The Chronicles of Amber.
>Actually, the entire family of Corwin are anti-heroes.

Actually, Gerard is a very traditional hero, not tormenting his brother's and sister's, even rescuing Random when he's stranded on an island, &c.

William

kennyc · 11-09-2009, 07:41 AM

I serendipitously ran across this quote I'd saved:

"Acts and their consequences are the things by which our fellows judge us.
Anything else, and all that you get is a cheap feeling of moral superiority by
thinking how you would have done something nicer if it had been you."
~Corwin of Amber (Robert Silverberg)

(It's probably someone's sig right here in the forum, but I don't know for sure)

montsnmags · 11-09-2009, 07:43 AM

Raoul Duke from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

zuul · 11-09-2009, 09:39 AM

There's nobody more darker than Tycho Caine from the Fiddleback Trilogy by mike stackpole

Daithi · 11-09-2009, 10:14 AM

I love a good vampire story so I just bought KarateMonkey's recommendation of Already Dead by Charlie Huston.

My vote for favorite anti-hero goes to Nick Charles from the Thin Man (with Mike Hammer a close second).

A couple classics not yet mentioned -- Hamlet, Tom Sawyer, and Captain Ahab. I also think Jane Austin's Emma makes a pretty good anti-hero with the flaw of being meddlesome beyond belief, but you like her anyway.

KarateMonkey · 11-09-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Daithi

I love a good vampire story so I just bought KarateMonkey's recommendation of Already Dead by Charlie Huston.

It's a great series. You won't regret it, and since the fifth and final book just came out a month ago you won't even have to wait to read them all.

Nate the great · 11-09-2009, 11:55 AM

Does Red qualify?

kennyc · 11-09-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Slite

Sympathy for the devil? Are you a Stones-fan Zelda?

NightGeometry · 11-09-2009, 04:44 PM

Takeshi Kovacs is very good. Also in sci-fi - Cheradenine Zakalwe from Iain Banks' The Use of Weapons.

eumesmo · 11-10-2009, 06:51 AM

Raskolnikov never struck me as the übermensch type, certainly he had some will, but that didn't define him, he had some ambition, but not unlimited ambition. I got the impression he wished to be nothing more than a benevolent autocrat, he recognized all his moral limitations even before the crime. Dunno, it was one of the first books I ever read so very long ago.

I think Pyotr Stepanovich Verkhovensky from "The Possessed" fits the role of übermensch better, which I thought was a very memorable character.

ccowie · 11-10-2009, 02:33 PM

I have a couple to add to this discussion.

Spider by Patrick McGrath
and
Euchrid Eucrow in Nick Cave's And the Ass Saw the Angel.

I have a feeling Bunny Muro will end up being one of my favourites, but I haven't read the book yet. . .

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11-09-2009, 06:19 AM	#34
Arjen Member Posts: 15 Karma: 133282 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Amersfoort, the Netherlands Device: iPhone	For me the perfect anti-heroes are FitzChivalry from the Farseer trilogy by Robin Hobb and Nevare Burvelle from the Soldier Son trilogy. Even though they're the main characters, there's just no end to their misfortune in these series.

11-09-2009, 07:30 AM	#35
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,258 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Krystian Galaj wrote: >Corwin of Amber, with whose eyes we look at first five volumes >of The Chronicles of Amber. >Actually, the entire family of Corwin are anti-heroes. Actually, Gerard is a very traditional hero, not tormenting his brother's and sister's, even rescuing Random when he's stranded on an island, &c. William

11-09-2009, 07:41 AM	#36
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,901 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	I serendipitously ran across this quote I'd saved: "Acts and their consequences are the things by which our fellows judge us. Anything else, and all that you get is a cheap feeling of moral superiority by thinking how you would have done something nicer if it had been you." ~Corwin of Amber (Robert Silverberg) (It's probably someone's sig right here in the forum, but I don't know for sure)

11-09-2009, 07:43 AM	#37
montsnmags Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,155 Karma: 4632658 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	Raoul Duke from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

11-09-2009, 09:39 AM	#38
zuul Bookworm Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, USA Device: ebookwise 1150 & Kindle	There's nobody more darker than Tycho Caine from the Fiddleback Trilogy by mike stackpole

11-09-2009, 10:14 AM	#39
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	I love a good vampire story so I just bought KarateMonkey's recommendation of Already Dead by Charlie Huston. My vote for favorite anti-hero goes to Nick Charles from the Thin Man (with Mike Hammer a close second). A couple classics not yet mentioned -- Hamlet, Tom Sawyer, and Captain Ahab. I also think Jane Austin's Emma makes a pretty good anti-hero with the flaw of being meddlesome beyond belief, but you like her anyway.

11-09-2009, 11:55 AM	#41
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Does Red qualify?

11-09-2009, 04:44 PM	#43
NightGeometry Zealot Posts: 139 Karma: 1057240 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brighton, England Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kindle 3G, Kindle DX	Takeshi Kovacs is very good. Also in sci-fi - Cheradenine Zakalwe from Iain Banks' The Use of Weapons.

11-10-2009, 06:51 AM	#44
eumesmo Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 272 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Sony Reader	Raskolnikov never struck me as the übermensch type, certainly he had some will, but that didn't define him, he had some ambition, but not unlimited ambition. I got the impression he wished to be nothing more than a benevolent autocrat, he recognized all his moral limitations even before the crime. Dunno, it was one of the first books I ever read so very long ago. I think Pyotr Stepanovich Verkhovensky from "The Possessed" fits the role of übermensch better, which I thought was a very memorable character.

11-10-2009, 02:33 PM	#45
ccowie Hiding with an ereader Posts: 391 Karma: 3987376 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kitchener Ontario Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony PRS 950, Ipad 2, PRS 350	I have a couple to add to this discussion. Spider by Patrick McGrath and Euchrid Eucrow in Nick Cave's And the Ass Saw the Angel. I have a feeling Bunny Muro will end up being one of my favourites, but I haven't read the book yet. . .

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