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Old 09-19-2009, 07:43 AM   #31
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Thats why you buy a generic ereader who isn't "locked" to a certain retailer/manufacturer.

If you had gone with a Cybook/Hanlin one it would have been less trouble I think
How are they any less locked than the sony?
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:30 AM   #32
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I don't bother trying to sell anyone on ebook readers. It is certainly a want rather than a need.

I personally don't understand why some people pay $50k for a car when a $25k one will get you were you are going just as well. But, some people want to drive a Mercedes where I am happy with a Toyota.

Some people spend $8 for a cup of coffee every day.... to me, that is a total waste of money. Heck, I don't even drink coffee at all.

I'm sure that people think I am crazy to spend $300 on an ebook reader when the ebooks aren't any cheaper than pbooks and sometimes harder to find.

That's life... to each his own.

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Old 09-19-2009, 08:40 AM   #33
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How do I sell ebooks to my friends???

Ever since I bought a liseuse
Maybe you should start with calling the gadget by its proper name: eBook Reader. You have better chances to get your idea across.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:24 AM   #34
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Maybe you should start with calling the gadget by its proper name: eBook Reader. You have better chances to get your idea across.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:27 PM   #35
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He's fairly right, though; I wouldn't recommend an ebook reader to most people (and wouldn't call it "liseuse" to the layperson). Having to convert just about everything so that I can see it on my sony, not to mention stripping things of DRM? For a lot of people having their icons disappear off the desktop is a major catastrophe!

Also, being in Australia with the geographical restrictions ... no. I don't mind tinkering, but most people want to be able to do what the Yanks can with the kindle -- go to a bookstore, select it, buy, and Bob's your uncle, you can read it!
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:38 PM   #36
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I zink I zee jour problem, ja. Jou arre confuuuuuzink e-books wiz ze deevizez zat read zem! Ja.

E-books are a great extension of literary access. But dedicated devices are not universally compatible yet. Maybe if you had recommended to your friends more generic ways of reading e-books, for instance, on PDAs, smartphones, their PC and Mac, their Blackberries, etc... then let them explore the world of dedicated devices and find the one that best works for them. I think that would be a better way to introduce them to e-books.

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(Und pleeze let me know if mine Austrian accent is too thick to understand. Ja.)
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:32 PM   #37
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I get the impression people are missing the real point of Alfy's post: it's not about Alfy's experience, it's that unless you're a book-crazed technophile who wants to read books published later than about 1900, you'd have to be crazy to buy an ereader device based on the stated experiences.
Yep, than you, that was exactly the point.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:40 PM   #38
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I'm sure that people think I am crazy to spend $300 on an ebook reader when the ebooks aren't any cheaper than pbooks and sometimes harder to find.
I live in the US, so it might not apply to everyone, but my PRS-505 has more than paid for itself in free content. And as for the ones I buy? The last one I bought is $17.13 plus shipping on Amazon. I got it for $9.99. from Sony. The one before that is $15 plus shipping at Amazon. I got it for $9.99 at Sony.

This is not to mention all the free magazines and newspapers I get by using the "Fetch news" feature of calibre.
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:40 PM   #39
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I zink I zee jour problem, ja. Jou arre confuuuuuzink e-books wiz ze deevizez zat read zem! Ja.
Steve,

It's talk like a pirate day Matey... not a.... what was that??? Sweedish? Austrian?

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Steve,

It's talk like a pirate day Matey... not a.... what was that??? Sweedish? Austrian?

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actually I got the sense it was due to some sort of, ummmm, herbal "medications"...either that or he was having a stroke!
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:08 AM   #41
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English with a German accent, is my guess. Sounds like one of Benny Hill's sketches.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:28 AM   #42
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I thought it sounded a bit like Zsa Zsa Gabor!
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:55 AM   #43
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I usually turn people off the ebook market unless they are dead-convinced they want to read books on their phone, pda, or computer. Anything that involves a dedicated ebook reader so far is just ridiculous, and I've not yet had any friends purchase a reader after talking to me. I tell them to wait until the technology is decent and the markets have converged a bit. No idea when that'll happen.
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I thought it sounded a bit like Zsa Zsa Gabor!


I was going for "learned Austrian psychoanalyst"... y'know, pipe and goatee, etc, etc... not "socialite marooned in Hootersville." Anyway, my voice is pitched way lower than that!

It is.

I'm pretty sure.
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:18 PM   #45
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... not "socialite marooned in Hootersville."...
Steve, that was Eva, not Zsa Zsa!

Zsa Zsa was one of Jack Paar's favorite guests.
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