Your Next Pda - Page 3

jasondv · 09-03-2003, 05:29 AM

With some specs on the rumored new Palms leaking out, this thread just got more interesting. I especially like the specs of the T3 (keeping my fingers crossed hoping that it's true):
- Intel Xscale processor, 400 Mhz
- 64MB RAM
- 320 by 480 screen, transflective (boy, does my T|T's screen look washed out when compared to the T|T2's!)
- Bluetooth
- original T|T form factor

I know that some people hate the slider mechanism and think that it's a bother to have to open it when they need access to the Graffiti area or the silkscreen buttons, but I think it's the perfect form factor for the T3 as it gives you the best of both worlds: a large screen when you need it (e.g., vewing photos, documents, spreadsheets), and a small form factor that is definitely more pocketable than other PDAs with a 320 by 480 screen.

Here in the Philippines, Wi-Fi hotspots are only just beginning to proliferate, so built-in BT is much more useful. We are an SMS-crazy nation (200 million messages sent each day, according to one estimate, but that's probably an overly optimistic estimate), and sending and receiving SMS via a BT phone is one of the most common things that people with a BT-enabled PDA do here.

As for going wireless, I find that checking, reading, and managing e-mail and browsing the Web is not exactly great using a PDA, and only do it once in a while. I'd rather do that stuff on my laptop.

gvtexas · 09-03-2003, 08:29 AM

jasondv:

I too am anxious to see the T3, but frankly I hope it's not BT but WIFI (I think BT is already set). I don't see the value in BT, at least here in the states. BT-enabled phones are not that available...WIFI (for me) would be very useful...BT totally unuseful. But, that's just my situation.

I too find Web work with a PDA a somewhat silly exercise, but pulling email and IM would be nice to have.

Even though the T3 appears to be BT-only, have watched with great interest the couple of SD-WIFI cards about to come on the market, albeit for PocketPC at first (SanDisk's SD-WIFI is supposed to come out for PalmOS in the fall). That would solve my issue, but would tag $150-160 on top of the $400+ for the T3. Ouch.

Bluetooth appears more the wishes of developers than the wants of users, at least here in the states.

Cheers,

jasondv · 09-03-2003, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gvtexas
jasondv:

Bluetooth appears more the wishes of developers than the wants of users, at least here in the states.

Cheers,

I know. I, too, am waiting for the Wi-Fi and memory combo SD card, and will weigh the cost of getting that for my current Tungsten or upgrade to the T3

Both of them should be coming out within a few weeks of each other.

gadgetguru · 09-03-2003, 12:54 PM

Personally, I would like top see what the Tungsten E look like. I used to own a m505 and loved its form-factor, currently the only 'new' PDA in that form factor is the Ipaq 1900 series... There are rumors that the TE is in this same form factor... Also on the lookout for this Tapwave device, the demo video/pictures look great...

sUnShInE · 09-03-2003, 12:54 PM

For those that haven't seen these products yet, PIC has sneak peeks:

T|T2
T|T3

Btw Clie users, there's also a Japanese company coming out with a Wifi MS next month (forget the name of the co right now), which should be price pointed around $150USD. Only for OS5+ though....

gvtexas · 09-03-2003, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasondv
I know. I, too, am waiting for the Wi-Fi and memory combo SD card, and will weigh the cost of getting that for my current Tungsten or upgrade to the T3 Both of them should be coming out within a few weeks of each other.

I thought the same thing, until I read this blurb in one of the messages at PIC regarding the T3 SD slot:

"I've spoken with the Sandisk folks and the upcoming SD wireless
will NOT support Cisco EAP/LEAP/PEAP authentication..."

...and apparently, per this poster, that rules OUT the T3 from working with the SanDisk SD-WIFI. Not sure how valid this is, so take it with a grain of salt, but if true, would see to dent the sales of the T3 quite a bit from folks like me who might buy it if a WiFi solution were immediately available. (SanDisk is not the only SD-WiFi coming I don't think.)

gvtexas · 09-03-2003, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sUnShInE
Only for OS5+ though....

All I can say is, "it's a conspiracy, man..."

Sigh. Two steps forward, one step back. Seems like you have to upgrade your PDA to take advantage of the newest toys anymore. It's like they PLAN it that way! Oh wait, they did plan it that way....

sUnShInE · 09-03-2003, 04:57 PM

Well what sucks is that you need the ARM processor to use OS5+. Remember the good old days when you could upgrade your OS without upgrading your unit? I will assume (she said wistfully) that OS6 will not pose the same sort of hardware limitation.

And yes, we're already talking OS6 kids. Eeek!

gvtexas · 09-03-2003, 05:23 PM

With OS6 right around the corner (early '04?) you'd think any new 5.x PDA would have a hard time in the market...but the rush to buy "the latest" is too enticing to some, I guess.

Not to mention the real threat from the PocketLint people...the specs on some of the new devices coming (with both BT and WiFi) are hard to ignore...except for the obnoxious virus that comes factory installed (Windoze...).

jasondv · 09-03-2003, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gvtexas
With OS6 right around the corner (early '04?) ...

Yeah. I jumped onto the OS 5 bandwagon early (got the Tungsten|T less than a month after it was released) and I am thinking that I should really wait for a while and see what the OS 6 devices will be like.

On the other hand, my current PDA already does everything that I want it to do, and the only thing that I really wish for right now is a bigger (320 by 480) and brighter (transflective) screen, which the T3 promises to have.

Choices, choices...

sUnShInE · 09-04-2003, 11:51 AM

My guess is that you'll be able to upgrade to OS6 without a problem. The limitation for us lowly OS4x users is that we have ye olde dragonball processors. Real snails comparatively....

My SO wants a new pda now too, so of course I'm "in charge" of this purchase. I'm hesitant to get anything right now with all the pre-holiday releases coming up cuz we all know they'll be in overstock sale by 2/1. Oh how I wish there was a good strategy for buying something decent and affordable while simultaneously avoiding the whining I'll endure!

My guess is that my upcoming/future pda lifestyle will be comprised of buying something, upgrading within a year (6 months?), and selling my stuff on eBay.

Maybe we should start a pda swap/sale section here. (ducking)

St0rmD · 09-07-2003, 02:43 PM

I just recently bought a T|T2 and I love it, but I'm already wondering if I should have held out for a T|T3. Still, for a first palm, it rules...very slim, very powerful, a beautiful screen, and bluetooth.

I've also been looking sidelong at the new Tapwave Zodiac that's being announced this month. That is one HOT machine, as an all-purpose Palm, with the addition of hot hot gaming action. I wet my pants when I found out the 128MB version would be the same price (retail, who knows about street) as my beloved 32MB T|T2, and it has 2(!) SD slots.

Bling. Bling.

elveejay · 09-07-2003, 08:10 PM

Since my last post, I too have been following the buzz about the T3 and the Zodiac. I am not much of a gamer so the Zodiac might be overkill for me. I've also never used BT or Wi-Fi, so that would be new to me also. I like the price range for both devices though. Unless a device quits on you it is hard to know just when to move to the next thing. Decisions, decisions.

drc54 · 10-16-2003, 09:56 AM

Last weekend visited the IT mall in Singapore, and to be honest, was the first time I've learnt of T3. Unlike how the M515 was launched, they don't post the price of the T3. So asked around, it's $718 (Singapore dollars), which makes it at the same ballpark, if not cheaper, than the M515 and the original T when it was announced.

So, if history will repeat itself, then expect the price to be real attractive come Christmas time. Why go to Funan IT mall? Well, I was actually looking for the latest PC games for my son, then saw the Logitech folding keyboard going for $89, more the 50% from it's original price. Couldn't resist, bought it. But, it was not as I expected. It's too "bouncy" to get any serious typing done. I was thinking that I could use in while waiting, say in an airport lounge, to type one or two notes. Flipping the keyboard and switching on my Palm is damn quick compare to booting up and booting down if I had to use my laptop.

Anyway, I still think it's money okay (not well) spent. Any experience using this keyboard anyone?

Regards,
Deva

Zire · 10-16-2003, 10:00 AM

I'm getting a zire 71.

09-03-2003, 05:29 AM	#31
jasondv Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Philippines Device: Palm Tungsten\|T	Next PDA With some specs on the rumored new Palms leaking out, this thread just got more interesting. I especially like the specs of the T3 (keeping my fingers crossed hoping that it's true): - Intel Xscale processor, 400 Mhz - 64MB RAM - 320 by 480 screen, transflective (boy, does my T\|T's screen look washed out when compared to the T\|T2's!) - Bluetooth - original T\|T form factor I know that some people hate the slider mechanism and think that it's a bother to have to open it when they need access to the Graffiti area or the silkscreen buttons, but I think it's the perfect form factor for the T3 as it gives you the best of both worlds: a large screen when you need it (e.g., vewing photos, documents, spreadsheets), and a small form factor that is definitely more pocketable than other PDAs with a 320 by 480 screen. Here in the Philippines, Wi-Fi hotspots are only just beginning to proliferate, so built-in BT is much more useful. We are an SMS-crazy nation (200 million messages sent each day, according to one estimate, but that's probably an overly optimistic estimate), and sending and receiving SMS via a BT phone is one of the most common things that people with a BT-enabled PDA do here. As for going wireless, I find that checking, reading, and managing e-mail and browsing the Web is not exactly great using a PDA, and only do it once in a while. I'd rather do that stuff on my laptop.

09-07-2003, 08:10 PM	#43
elveejay Member Posts: 23 Karma: 50 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Device: Visor Prism; Tungsten TE	Next PDA Since my last post, I too have been following the buzz about the T3 and the Zodiac. I am not much of a gamer so the Zodiac might be overkill for me. I've also never used BT or Wi-Fi, so that would be new to me also. I like the price range for both devices though. Unless a device quits on you it is hard to know just when to move to the next thing. Decisions, decisions.

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09-03-2003, 08:29 AM	#32
gvtexas Addict Posts: 346 Karma: 7797 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Device: Sony Clie TH55	jasondv: I too am anxious to see the T3, but frankly I hope it's not BT but WIFI (I think BT is already set). I don't see the value in BT, at least here in the states. BT-enabled phones are not that available...WIFI (for me) would be very useful...BT totally unuseful. But, that's just my situation. I too find Web work with a PDA a somewhat silly exercise, but pulling email and IM would be nice to have. Even though the T3 appears to be BT-only, have watched with great interest the couple of SD-WIFI cards about to come on the market, albeit for PocketPC at first (SanDisk's SD-WIFI is supposed to come out for PalmOS in the fall). That would solve my issue, but would tag $150-160 on top of the $400+ for the T3. Ouch. Bluetooth appears more the wishes of developers than the wants of users, at least here in the states. Cheers,

09-03-2003, 12:54 PM	#34
gadgetguru Addict Posts: 214 Karma: 6370 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Asia Device: Tungsten T5	Personally, I would like top see what the Tungsten E look like. I used to own a m505 and loved its form-factor, currently the only 'new' PDA in that form factor is the Ipaq 1900 series... There are rumors that the TE is in this same form factor... Also on the lookout for this Tapwave device, the demo video/pictures look great...

09-03-2003, 12:54 PM	#35
sUnShInE Drama Queen Posts: 784 Karma: 11712 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T\|T3	For those that haven't seen these products yet, PIC has sneak peeks: T\|T2 T\|T3 Btw Clie users, there's also a Japanese company coming out with a Wifi MS next month (forget the name of the co right now), which should be price pointed around $150USD. Only for OS5+ though....

09-03-2003, 04:57 PM	#38
sUnShInE Drama Queen Posts: 784 Karma: 11712 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T\|T3	Well what sucks is that you need the ARM processor to use OS5+. Remember the good old days when you could upgrade your OS without upgrading your unit? I will assume (she said wistfully) that OS6 will not pose the same sort of hardware limitation. And yes, we're already talking OS6 kids. Eeek!

09-03-2003, 05:23 PM	#39
gvtexas Addict Posts: 346 Karma: 7797 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Device: Sony Clie TH55	With OS6 right around the corner (early '04?) you'd think any new 5.x PDA would have a hard time in the market...but the rush to buy "the latest" is too enticing to some, I guess. Not to mention the real threat from the PocketLint people...the specs on some of the new devices coming (with both BT and WiFi) are hard to ignore...except for the obnoxious virus that comes factory installed (Windoze...).

09-04-2003, 11:51 AM	#41
sUnShInE Drama Queen Posts: 784 Karma: 11712 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T\|T3	My guess is that you'll be able to upgrade to OS6 without a problem. The limitation for us lowly OS4x users is that we have ye olde dragonball processors. Real snails comparatively.... My SO wants a new pda now too, so of course I'm "in charge" of this purchase. I'm hesitant to get anything right now with all the pre-holiday releases coming up cuz we all know they'll be in overstock sale by 2/1. Oh how I wish there was a good strategy for buying something decent and affordable while simultaneously avoiding the whining I'll endure! My guess is that my upcoming/future pda lifestyle will be comprised of buying something, upgrading within a year (6 months?), and selling my stuff on eBay. Maybe we should start a pda swap/sale section here. (ducking)

09-07-2003, 02:43 PM	#42
St0rmD Member Posts: 21 Karma: 40 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T2	I just recently bought a T\|T2 and I love it, but I'm already wondering if I should have held out for a T\|T3. Still, for a first palm, it rules...very slim, very powerful, a beautiful screen, and bluetooth. I've also been looking sidelong at the new Tapwave Zodiac that's being announced this month. That is one HOT machine, as an all-purpose Palm, with the addition of hot hot gaming action. I wet my pants when I found out the 128MB version would be the same price (retail, who knows about street) as my beloved 32MB T\|T2, and it has 2(!) SD slots. Bling. Bling.

10-16-2003, 09:56 AM	#44
drc54 Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore Device: Palm m515, now TX	Last weekend visited the IT mall in Singapore, and to be honest, was the first time I've learnt of T3. Unlike how the M515 was launched, they don't post the price of the T3. So asked around, it's $718 (Singapore dollars), which makes it at the same ballpark, if not cheaper, than the M515 and the original T when it was announced. So, if history will repeat itself, then expect the price to be real attractive come Christmas time. Why go to Funan IT mall? Well, I was actually looking for the latest PC games for my son, then saw the Logitech folding keyboard going for $89, more the 50% from it's original price. Couldn't resist, bought it. But, it was not as I expected. It's too "bouncy" to get any serious typing done. I was thinking that I could use in while waiting, say in an airport lounge, to type one or two notes. Flipping the keyboard and switching on my Palm is damn quick compare to booting up and booting down if I had to use my laptop. Anyway, I still think it's money okay (not well) spent. Any experience using this keyboard anyone? Regards, Deva

10-16-2003, 10:00 AM	#45
Zire Fanatic Posts: 522 Karma: 14050 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Astoria, NY Device: Zire 71	I'm getting a zire 71.

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