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Old 06-24-2009, 10:13 AM   #31
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"Intrique coming out on August 15 at 2:00 p.m. PDT exactly to the minute and here is a list of every conceivable option and nuance and strength."
Hear that everyone??? It's coming out on August 15!


Even if this one never does make it to market, it's nice to see that companies are looking at and experimenting with different things.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:35 PM   #32
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Hear that everyone??? It's coming out on August 15!


Even if this one never does make it to market, it's nice to see that companies are looking at and experimenting with different things.
Dear Abecedary:

Remember the old nursery rhyme: "I shot an arrow in the air, it fell to earth I know not where"? That is how I feel about timelines. Trying to pin down a date for release is similar to trying to hit a piece of paper in a hurricane with a rubber band after you have been drinking all night.

Be thankful you are NOt working for a Device Manufacturer. It is pretty maddening.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:08 PM   #33
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Dear Abecedary:

Remember the old nursery rhyme: "I shot an arrow in the air, it fell to earth I know not where"? That is how I feel about timelines. Trying to pin down a date for release is similar to trying to hit a piece of paper in a hurricane with a rubber band after you have been drinking all night.

Be thankful you are NOt working for a Device Manufacturer. It is pretty maddening.
Oh, absolutely. I'm a firm believer in the "it's ready when it's ready" school of thought.
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:15 PM   #34
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Oh, absolutely. I'm a firm believer in the "it's ready when it's ready" school of thought.
My favorite poem is by Yeats and it starts with:

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The Falcon cannot hear the falconer
Things fall apart and the center cannot hold
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world"

It is a very "dark" poem referred to often by Bobby Kennedy in his speeches. Basically this "Vision of Yeat's The Second Coming" relates to how everything seems to start from the center and as it works outward everything falls apart and into disorder as too many things are always impacting at once. That is the nature of eBook Reader manufacturing.

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Do not worry RobertB. I have marked August the 15th with a thick red marker in my calendar.
By 2Pm did you mean California local time or GMT? Please be more specific next time.
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:40 PM   #36
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By 2Pm did you mean California local time or GMT? Please be more specific next time.
Please use ZULU time!! Not the military time known as "ZULU"; but the actual time as pontificated by Ezwadda Ereadera, the ZULU Chieftain in charge of such matters!! You can tell him as he has thick red marker on his face!!
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Robertb did not say what year they would be out by for all you know he could be talking about August 15 at 2:00 p.m. PDT 2012
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Robertb did not say what year they would be out by for all you know he could be talking about August 15 at 2:00 p.m. PDT 2012
No.
You are confusing this thread with the one about the next Bookeen firmware update
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:57 PM   #39
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Please use ZULU time!
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ZULU time was designed to confuse people, because USA military is too embarased to admit they use Greenwich Mean Time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu_time#Time_zones
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:16 PM   #40
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You know, if you actually read that article, you'd see that UTC was in fact an International standard, and that Greenwich Mean Time is not the universal standard anymore.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:37 PM   #42
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Dear Griffonwing:

Can we please not talk about "illiterate"? Paris strongly objects and has learned how to do simple sentences:

"I thunk I sawed you're puddycat".

Regarding August of 2012: alright if the weather in New Orleans is not too muggy.
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Dear Abecedary:

Remember the old nursery rhyme: "I shot an arrow in the air, it fell to earth I know not where"? That is how I feel about timelines. Trying to pin down a date for release is similar to trying to hit a piece of paper in a hurricane with a rubber band after you have been drinking all night.

Be thankful you are NOt working for a Device Manufacturer. It is pretty maddening.
I remember when you first started posting about the EZ Reader and you mentioned a date and price you guys were hoping for. You were completely clear that this was no promise yet there were still a couple people yelling that you lied to them when things didn't materialize as you'd wished. Most of us are able to easily distinguish between speculation and promise but there'll always be a couple that read in what they want. They're usually the ones that will write nastygrams to your boss, too. Sadly complaints like that probably weigh more heavily in his or her mind even if they're the minority opinion.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:06 PM   #44
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I remember when you first started posting about the EZ Reader and you mentioned a date and price you guys were hoping for. You were completely clear that this was no promise yet there were still a couple people yelling that you lied to them when things didn't materialize as you'd wished. Most of us are able to easily distinguish between speculation and promise but there'll always be a couple that read in what they want. They're usually the ones that will write nastygrams to your boss, too. Sadly complaints like that probably weigh more heavily in his or her mind even if they're the minority opinion.
Dear Alisa:

I think most people by now know that I honestly try to get them accurate info and schedules. I think most know that working with factories 7,000 miles or more away where I do not speak their language means some misunderstanding and mistakes.

But I also think 99% of the people on the forum know I am honest if I am not always perfect. I do get them answers and I do listen and make changes they want. More than anything else I certainly listen.

I am proud that the product released thus far has been outstanding. Unlike a lot of newbies in consumer electronics, our first effort was excellent and is known for being a great reliable choice still today.

Yes, if people only would recognize (and most do) that I do not make all the decisions but mostly I have been very accurate anyway for such an industry. Things do and will change from time to time. Devices will be announced and then changed or delayed. But, I am still honest about it and in the end people are very happy with their new devices by Astak. THAT is what keeps me going.
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You know, if you actually read that article, you'd see that UTC was in fact an International standard, and that Greenwich Mean Time is not the universal standard anymore.
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The UTC time zone is sometimes denoted by the letter Z – a reference to the equivalent nautical time zone (GMT), which has been denoted by a Z since about 1950. The letter also refers to the "zone description" of zero hours, which has been used since 1920 (see time zone history). Since the NATO phonetic alphabet and amateur radio word for Z is "Zulu", UTC is sometimes known as Zulu time.
You are right. UTC is not identical to GMT, but close enough. See article about GMT
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Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is a term originally referring to mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. It is regularly used to refer to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) when this is viewed as a time zone, especially by bodies connected with the United Kingdom, such as the BBC World Service,[1] the Royal Navy, the Met Office and others, although strictly UTC is an atomic time scale which only approximates GMT to within a second. It is also used to refer to Universal Time (UT), which is a standard astronomical concept used in many technical fields and is referred to by the phrase Zulu time.
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