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Old 06-04-2009, 06:16 PM   #31
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The reason that "textify" failed in Gideon's case is that his file has NO indication of "end of paragraph" - there is a carriage return at the end of every line, and no special indication of the start of a paragraph. There is literally nothing for any tool to "pick up on". It's a horribly-formatted file.
Thank you for making my point so perfectly.
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:54 PM   #32
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I shall undertake this Quest!

Seriously though, I got a scrap of the file from Gideon, and I'm going to try to throw together a quick Python script that I shall post anon.

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Old 06-04-2009, 08:21 PM   #33
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Well, mjh215 nailed it. There was a space before the non-paragraph line endings that both Harry and I missed. If I had noticed it I could have done something, but I just didn't see it at all... but Mjh did! Well done! And Thanks!!!!!
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Well, mjh215 nailed it. There was a space before the non-paragraph line endings that both Harry and I missed. If I had noticed it I could have done something, but I just didn't see it at all... but Mjh did! Well done! And Thanks!!!!!
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:10 PM   #35
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Well, mjh215 nailed it. There was a space before the non-paragraph line endings that both Harry and I missed. If I had noticed it I could have done something, but I just didn't see it at all... but Mjh did! Well done! And Thanks!!!!!
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One of the things that you can search for, and may not be obvious to someone just looking at the text, is a space preceding a hard-return as a marker for end-of-paragraph. I'm surprised how frequently that has turned up.
Did I miss something? In another thread?

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Old 06-05-2009, 10:26 AM   #36
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Did I miss something? In another thread?

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I don't think you missed anything, "mjh215".

I should note though that I am 99% certain that my previously described methodology would also have worked on this file.

Since the need ceased, I didn't force myself to figure out that python script yesterday after all... but when I have it, I will post it. I think it will be remarkably good at removing line-breaks while preserving paragraph breaks... (almost) regardless of what format is used.

In the case of Gideon's file, the second most common whitespace weight being 1001 (space + return) would have identified it as the linebreak sequence, while 1000 (return only) would have been identified as the paragraph break sequence by virtue of being third most common.

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Thanks, Ahi.

It's funny -- I see it the other way, too: sometimes the space is only at the paragraph hard-return. The other hard-returns are without.

Either way, useful, and not obvious.

Good luck with that script, and I'll gladly experiment with it.

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Old 06-05-2009, 06:09 PM   #38
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Sorry Rogue.. mjh took a look at a piece of the file and actually fixed it. By the time you made your suggestion I had quit mucking about with it already. I then went ahead and fixed it myself. It was something I had a hard copy of so I wasn't willing to spend TOO much time on it, but glad it was resolved and now I know some new tricks. Thanks everyone!
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:24 PM   #39
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No worries. mjh even PM'd me to explain! Guess I came off a little prickly...



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No worries. mjh even PM'd me to explain! Guess I came off a little prickly...
You didn't by any means come off prickly. I just thought I'd let you know the details on that file. I simply didn't post in the thread because I'm no longer posting publically for my own reasons. If you want proof that I didn't think you were being a prick, I'm breaking my own word just to post this... This just happened to be one of the last threads I was still reading at the time, heh.

Take care RN and sorry if I confused things...

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Old 06-06-2009, 07:02 AM   #41
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Glad to hear that you got it sorted!
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:07 AM   #42
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I still do it the old fashion way, lol

Kind of hard to explain so I posted some pictures.

In word, I just paste the text

1. http://www.fileqube.com/file/UhjKpyQdK201072

Then add some symbol at the end of each paragraph manually
Something like
#@

2. http://www.fileqube.com/file/bGtkOzhn201073

I use File / Replace and put the symbol ^p
change all so it looks like this junk...

3. http://www.fileqube.com/file/FLOIaCe201074

Then replace again my #@ with ^p

4. http://www.fileqube.com/file/UfotRD201075

At the end I end up with this

5. http://www.fileqube.com/file/ZUQYTJCm201076


slower than an automated program but I still like the old way where I'm sure its doen the way I want. I also use a keyboard with a cup and paste macro key so makes it easier.
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