How do you write a book in lrx format

[p3aul]

Hmmm thats what the whole discussion was about! DRMless files.

It's obvious that you are trying to obscure the issue because you can't refute it.

I'll search the net for a PRS 505 forum that has people that can think instead of having an unbudging mindset. You don't wont DRM so you refuse to see and understand the similes that I have presented to you. . Unless you can convince the moderators to delete these posts I am going to post links to it so intelligent and educated people can see what it's like when a person tries to convince people that they have a mindset against DRM and refuse to think logically. You people haven't backed up anything you've said with proof just "invented statistics." Where's the answer to my last simile?

[daffy4u]

Originally Posted by p3aul

Hmmm thats what the whole discussion was about! DRMless files.

It's obvious that you are trying to obscure the issue because you can't refute it.

I'll search the net for a PRS 505 forum that has people that can think instead of having an unbudging mindset. You don't wont DRM so you refuse to see and understand the similes that I have presented to you. . Unless you can convince the moderators to delete these posts I am going to post links to it so intelligent and educated people can see what it's like when a person tries to convince people that they have a mindset against DRM and refuse to think logically. You people haven't backed up anything you've said with proof just "invented statistics." Where's the answer to my last simile?

There is no answer because what you wrote makes no sense. Good luck to you with your new forum search.

[khalleron]

Daffy's right, it doesn't make any sense, but I'll attempt to answer it.

DRMless files is *not* like getting paperbacks for free. Daffy's right, that makes no sense at all. Have you owned more than one computer? Have you installed the same software (that you bought!) on a new computer? What if your software stopped working whenever you got a new harddrive? What if your software stopped working whenever you moved to a new house?

What if they seized all your books when you moved to a different state? THAT's what having DRM on your ebooks is like.

Do you have any ideas how many copies of LOTR I've bought? I still have the now coverless ones I first bought in college. I have the 3-volume hardback boxed set I bought to replace them. I have the single-volume Alan Lee illustrated hardcover version. And now, I have the ebook version, since the publisher has come to their senses and released it. All I ask is that I still be able to read the ebooks that I paid for 20 years from now, just as I'm able to read the paper versions that I bought.

Does that make me a thief in your book?

[p3aul]

Exactly!! That's what I've been saying all along No one is going to give you a free DRM book in another format just because you bought one in a different format! They are two different books. Just like the hardback and the paperback.
Whew! I'm glad you understand now.

I apologize for my rudeness This was the whole point I was trying to make. It makes perfect sense to me and now I hope to all of you, what I was trying to say. Having only an elementary school education, it's hard sometimes for me to say succinctly what I mean.
Paul

[Elfwreck]

Originally Posted by p3aul

Everyone has a right to an opinion. But I would like for someone to comment on this simile. >>Your concept is like me buying a hardback book; reading it, then taking it back to the dealer and saying "Here is this hardback book. I'm not giving it back to you but, because I've bought it, now I want the paperback version for free.<<

Then I'll shut up. Any takers?

How about this one:
"You can buy our book, but in order to read it, you'll need to use our special glasses. You can't read the book without it, and it's illegal for anyone to tell you how to remove the filter over every page that makes you need the glasses. Oh, and when you're done with the book, you can't sell it or even give it away."

However, if I buy a hardcover book, I'm free to copy the whole thing into a spiral notebook if I want to spend that time writing. That's what format-shifting is--I'm not asking the publisher to provide me with a hardcover, a paperback, and a magazine format of the same book; I'm requesting that digital copies come with the same freedoms that are included in paper ones: the right to modify or copy for personal use.

I don't buy DRM'd ebooks. Any publisher who thinks I'm so dishonest that I can't be trusted with full access to my purchases, doesn't want my business. I don't buy furniture with restrictions on what room of the house I can place it in, and I don't buy books that tell me what computer I can read them on.

[HistoryWes]

Check out smashwords.com. You can upload your book and their software will convert it to many different formats including .lrf .mobi epub etc. You can sell it directly from their site, set your price etc.

[khalleron]

Originally Posted by p3aul

Exactly!! That's what I've been saying all along No one is going to give you a free DRM book in another format just because you bought one in a different format! They are two different books. Just like the hardback and the paperback.
Whew! I'm glad you understand now.

I apologize for my rudeness This was the whole point I was trying to make. It makes perfect sense to me and now I hope to all of you, what I was trying to say. Having only an elementary school education, it's hard sometimes for me to say succinctly what I mean.
Paul

Wow. Did you even read what I wrote? I was NOT agreeing with you.

DRM makes ebooks unreadable at a later date - it's like having your books seized when you buy a new house. A different filetype is not a different 'format' (although the word is used) in the same way a paperback is a different format from a hardcover. It just has some code added that applies restrictions.

Lack of education doesn't make a person rude, lack of respect for others does. And if you want an education in ebooks, please don't insult the people here - there's not a more knowledgeable bunch of people on the subject elsewhere, nor a more tolerant bunch. DRM has been discussed, POLITELY, quite a lot here. There's no excuse for your behavior.

[p3aul]

I wasn't referring to you! you hadn't even posted yet! Talk about mindset! I'm outta here people. You all have a one-track mind and refuse to see any way but your own or even conceive of the possibility that you might be wrong.

[Elfwreck]

Originally Posted by p3aul

I wasn't referring to you! you hadn't even posted yet! Talk about mindset! I'm outta here people. You all have a one-track mind and refuse to see any way but your own or even conceive of the possibility that you might be wrong.

We are avid readers--and most of us, purchasers--of ebooks. (Some of us stick to free ebook sites.) WE ARE YOUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS. We are the ones who like taking a chance on new authors, who throw money at new ebook projects.

If you aren't interested in what the people most likely to buy your books have to say, maybe you should look for a contract with one of the mainstream publishers, where it's expected that authors don't have any contact with their readers and don't listen to customer feedback.

[p3aul]

If you aren't interested in what the people most likely to buy your books have to say, maybe you should look for a contract with one of the mainstream publishers, where it's expected that authors don't have any contact with their readers and don't listen to customer feedback.

I think you are wrong there. First, I don't think any of you would buy my wife's book and I wouldn't want you to. Second, She already has a contract with a mainstream publisher. Third, If mainstream authors didn't listen or read what their fans say or write, then why do they set up webpages specifically for that purpose.

Like I said a book is a book is a book. a hardback book is different from a paperback book. You wouldn't even attempt to xerox a whole 300 or 400 page book to copy it, hence, no copy protection. With the advent of digital computers, and their ability to make a flawless digital copy of a file, everyone wants to copy them. I can't blame the publishers or the authors for wanting copy protection it's just a logical extension of the copyright laws. Thank goodness, The people who make our laws and the justice departments that enforce them are with me on this. If you don't believe this., be warned. There will always be DRM and there will always be pirates who try to circumvent it. This will just lead to more and better DRM and the process continues ad infintum. Nothing any group of consumers do is going to change this. You are wasting your time.

[HistoryWes]

Let's cool off everybody. There is plenty of room for people with conflicting opinions. I can certainly see the point of publishers and writers who think that DRM is the way to go. If I have the choice of buying a DRM or Non-DRM book, I will choose the latter. On the other hand, I have bought plenty of DRM books, either because they were unavailable in any other format or in a few cases (I have to admit) because they were cheaper.

As for whether DRM will be around in five years, I think you can look at the music industry to see the trend away from DRM. It will be consumers who decide one way or another. As with all things in a free market economy, the market will decide.

In the meantime... we can manage to peacefully coexist with differing opinions on much more important things than this without resorting to personal attacks....

P.S. I misread the original post, Smashwords.com offers .lrf, not .lrx formats.

[pepak]

Originally Posted by p3aul

I can't blame the publishers or the authors for wanting copy protection it's just a logical extension of the copyright laws.

Happily, you can blame the customers that they want to actually read the book they bought, the selfish bastards they are!

If you don't believe this., be warned. There will always be DRM and there will always be pirates who try to circumvent it. This will just lead to more and better DRM and the process continues ad infintum.

I could refer you to the past examples of DRM, none of which survived long, but that is quite obviously a waste of time. Go ahead, follow in the footsteps of music industry and film industry and software industry - it's just so obvious that what didn't work for them will work for you...

Nothing any group of consumers do is going to change this. You are wasting your time.

Well, we could stop buying your products and focus on products of those creative people who respect our needs. It's not as if we need you - even if there were not a single book to be written, ever, there is a quite large amount of older works to choose from...

[Fathermole]

Thanks Paul for making us all thieves .

[p3aul]

OK one more time to clarify the remark I made about DRM. If not DRM thaen there will be another form of copy protection. Don't you understand that Copy protection is necessary? If not in one form, then in another. You havn't given time for the drmless music to perculate through. This law remains absolute. You have to agree with me on this. "If authors and publishers aren't paid, there will be no more music or books. Let me demonstrate, although I don't have the exact answers. How many publishers and how many authors made a profit from "Clemence, The Schoolmistress of Waveland" by Retta Babcock? Now what publisher and what author made a profit from "Phantom Prey" by James Sanford? Obviously, the first book, the copyright has run out on. The publisher doesn't want to publish it because anybody could copy it. The author doesn't make a profit on it because shes dead. In the second example, John Sanford is alive and well. his book is copyrighted *and* copy protected and he makes a profit as well as his publisher. So Copy protection are no copy protection. The first case or the second? Which Publisher is going to continue making money and which author will make money enabling him to write more good books?

[pepak]

Originally Posted by p3aul

OK one more time to clarify the remark I made about DRM. If not DRM thaen there will be another form of copy protection. Don't you understand that Copy protection is necessary?

Don't you understand that copy protection has been around at least since early 1980's, and so far there hasn't been a single one example that wasn't cracked!?

You have to agree with me on this. "If authors and publishers aren't paid, there will be no more music or books.

No, I don't. The massive amount of open-source software proves that at least some creative people are willing to work for free, benefiting not from money but from e.g. the pleasure of being respected by people.

How many publishers and how many authors made a profit from "Clemence, The Schoolmistress of Waveland" by Retta Babcock? Now what publisher and what author made a profit from "Phantom Prey" by James Sanford? Obviously, the first book, the copyright has run out on. The publisher doesn't want to publish it because anybody could copy it.

I don't know, but I know that when Karel Capek's works came into public domain on January 1st, at least two publishers in my country started printing paper books and two others published them as e-books. Obviously they didn't know, unlike you, that the evil people on the internet will steal everything and rob them of all profit.

Anyway, I have read through the thread and it has become obvious that you do not care about our opinions or suggestions. All you want is to push your opinion as the only valid one; you see every conflicting opinion as a proof that the holder of that opinion is out there to steal your life's work and leave you starving. I have no more interest in feeding you more troll food.