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Old 02-10-2009, 06:07 PM   #31
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Library ebooks aren't necessarily as great as they sound. I can't read the ebooks that my library offers on my Sony because they have some sort of special software protections that only allow you to read the book for 2 weeks or whatever, like a regular library book. But Sony can't process it, so I can't read any of them on it.
Someone in another post just told me that the newer Sony models (505&700) can read library books. I've got the 500. Just FYI.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:16 PM   #32
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A boycott is unlikely to be effective. What might be effective is if everyone who didn't buy an ebook because of the high price (or the DRM) wrote a letter or sent an email to the publishers informing them of their decision.
That's exactly right. The most effective strategy would also include sending an email to the author if possible. It is obscene that a creative work which is usually done by 1 person and then distributed is what is essentially a 5 cents per copy medium (hardly any reproduction costs) should cost over $10. If you bought the kindle expecting books at sub $10 it seems like we've been jipped.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:19 PM   #33
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So the bundle that I just got with 4 books (which are normally $5 or so a piece) for $13 is bad? Because I sure thought it was a good deal.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:27 PM   #34
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That's exactly right. The most effective strategy would also include sending an email to the author if possible. It is obscene that a creative work which is usually done by 1 person and then distributed is what is essentially a 5 cents per copy medium (hardly any reproduction costs) should cost over $10. If you bought the kindle expecting books at sub $10 it seems like we've been jipped.
I don't feel gypped. Amazon never promised all books would be $9.99 Here is what they said.

"Whether you prefer biographies, classics, investment guides, thrillers, or sci-fi, thousands of your favorite books are available, including 103 of 110 books currently found on the New York Times® Best Seller list. New York Times Best Sellers and most new releases are $9.99, and you'll find many books for less."



Once they fall off the best seller list, or never make it there, all bets are off.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:35 PM   #35
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I don't feel gypped. Amazon never promised all books would be $9.99
I don't feel gypped, either. Quite the contrary -- Amazon has provided me with better pricing overall than other ebook sellers.

I'm not happy when a formerly $9.99 book goes up in price, or a niche book is originally priced higher than that -- but Amazon never promised me that all books would be $9.99 or would never go up in price.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:50 PM   #36
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I support the boycott completely.
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:57 PM   #37
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I support the boycott completely.
Why. How are you 'getting gypped'?
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:17 PM   #38
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So far, I haven't bought anything for 9.99 or above. I'm sure that when a book comes out that I have to have immediately comes out, I won't mind too much paying the $9.99 since the hardback would be over $20. Although there was a book a couple weeks ago that I really wanted that I did not buy specifically because it was $13.95. I decided to wait until it came down.

I especially wish some of this children's books were cheaper - they are much shorter and quicker reads. But I always felt that way in non-ebooks also.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:55 PM   #39
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I read that this morning and I believe that the older e book veterans are so excited about just having e books that they will fall for anything. The junior members are expecting and demand lower pricing, good for us. If we have to roll the companies, the sycophants, and anyone else in our way to accomplish this we will do so. In the great George Bush's words "Bring em on!"
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:51 PM   #40
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:57 AM   #41
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And it takes a very high book price for Amazon to make a loss on selling and eBook at £9.99. Amazon pays publishers 35% of the retail price. So they'd only actually lose money on books with a retail over $28.50

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Old 02-11-2009, 04:40 AM   #42
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It is obscene that a creative work which is usually done by 1 person and then distributed is what is essentially a 5 cents per copy medium (hardly any reproduction costs) should cost over $10.
"Reproduction costs" are entirely irrelevent. If you spend 6 months writing a book, what is a fair rate of return for that work?

If I can reasonably expect to sell 5000 copies of a book, and I decide that my work is worth, say, $20,000 to me (hardly a high rate of pay for 6 months work), then I need to make $4 profit per copy. If Amazon pays me 35% of the book's selling price, that means that the book needs to sell for $11.50 to give me my $4.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:11 AM   #43
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"Reproduction costs" are entirely irrelevent. If you spend 6 months writing a book, what is a fair rate of return for that work?

If I can reasonably expect to sell 5000 copies of a book, and I decide that my work is worth, say, $20,000 to me (hardly a high rate of pay for 6 months work), then I need to make $4 profit per copy. If Amazon pays me 35% of the book's selling price, that means that the book needs to sell for $11.50 to give me my $4.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that reproduction costs are totally irrelevant. If you only sell 500 copies because the consumer thinks your price is too high you don't make your $20K either. Who knows if you lower the price to $5 maybe you'll sell 20,000 copies.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that reproduction costs are totally irrelevant. If you only sell 500 copies because the consumer thinks your price is too high you don't make your $20K either. Who knows if you lower the price to $5 maybe you'll sell 20,000 copies.
True. My basic point, however, still stands - that you need to do this type of calculation in determining the price for a book, and that the actual cost of delivering the book to the customer is generally not a significant factor.
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I read that this morning and I believe that the older e book veterans are so excited about just having e books that they will fall for anything. The junior members are expecting and demand lower pricing, good for us. If we have to roll the companies, the sycophants, and anyone else in our way to accomplish this we will do so. In the great George Bush's words "Bring em on!"
I'm a new adopter and am fairly happy with the pricing, for now. I will expect them to go down in a few years though.
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