Call for testers for Sigil 2.6.0 - Beta 2 - Page 3

philja · 06-21-2025, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

If you're using my EpubCheck plugin, it should briefly display the EPUBCheck version number like this:

Code:

Running EPUBCheck 5.2.1... please wait.

Maybe the update code failed to download to the latest version.

Are you sure that you didn't select a different validator? AFAIK, my EpubCheck plugin doesn't display blue error messages. Also, IIRC, EPUBCheck doesn't check epub:type values.

When running your plugin, all my machines show that message - so all are running 5.2.1. In fact, the W10 box hadn't run for a while so I saw the update check run before 5.2.1.

I only get the 'blue' message on my linux box running UbuntuStudio24.04.1 and with the Beta2 Sigil.

Years ago when I first started using Sigil (v0.9ish), I used to get lots of messages from the epubcheck plugin. The first few were in blue and the others in red. IIRC, someone on this forum said the blues were for info only and could be ignored and only the red needed fixing to validate the epub.

These days, it's rare to get any message at all so I've probably upped my game a bit. On a new epub3 generated from scratch in Sigil Beta2, filled with some 'lorem ipsum' text and a footnote with backlink using the new Aria Clips, I still get that message on the linux box, but not on W10 nor MacBook.

And I'm certain I only used your plugin to validate and there's no coding error. I don't understand why it's only the linux box which produces this message, but I'm not going to worry too much about it.

Doitsu · 06-21-2025, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philja

And I'm certain I only used your plugin to validate and there's no coding error. I don't understand why it's only the linux box which produces this message, but I'm not going to worry too much about it.

This is an INFO message that is shown, because you've enabled the Usage option in EpubCheck.json via:

Code:

  "usage": true,

Apparently, the EPUBCheck devs decided way back in 2019 to report all epub:type value checks as USAGE messages and it doesn't look like that they've updated the usage checker code in a while...

DiapDealer · 06-21-2025, 12:40 PM

I'm not getting the "Unrecognized epub:type value 'backlink'" warning on Linux with the Beta 2 AppImage. New Epub3; ipsum lorem text; made a footnote with backlink using the Aria Clips.

Using version 0.4.7.1 of the EpubCheck plugin (with version 5.2.1 of Epubcheck).

DiapDealer · 06-21-2025, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

This is an INFO message that is shown, because you've enabled the Usage option in EpubCheck.json via:

Code:

  "usage": true,

Apparently, the EPUBCheck devs decided way back in 2019 to report all epub:type value checks as USAGE messages and it doesn't look like that they've updated the usage checker code in a while...

Well that explains it.

Doitsu · 06-21-2025, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm not getting the "Unrecognized epub:type value 'backlink'" warning on Linux with the Beta 2 AppImage. New Epub3; ipsum lorem text; made a footnote with backlink using the Aria Clips.

Using version 0.4.7.1 of the EpubCheck plugin (with version 5.2.1 of Epubcheck).

If you're using my Sigil plugin, you'll need to add/edit this line in EpubCheck.json.

Code:

  "usage": true,

Or if you're using the command line:

Code:

java -jar "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\sigil-ebook\sigil\plugins\EpubCheck\epubcheck.jar" "C:\Users\user\Downloads\backlink.epub" -u --json -

The output will be:

Spoiler:

Code:

No errors or warnings detected.
{
  "messages" : [ {
    "ID" : "OPF-088",
    "severity" : "USAGE",
    "message" : "Unrecognized epub:type value \"backlink\".",
    "additionalLocations" : 0,
    "locations" : [ {
      "url" : {
        "opaque" : false,
        "hierarchical" : true
      },
      "path" : "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml",
      "line" : 12,
      "column" : 116,
      "context" : null
    } ],
    "suggestion" : null
  } ],
  "customMessageFileName" : null,
  "checker" : {
    "path" : ".\\Downloads\\backlink.epub",
    "filename" : "backlink.epub",
    "checkerVersion" : "5.2.1",
    "checkDate" : "06-21-2025 18:57:32",
    "elapsedTime" : 32994,
    "nFatal" : 0,
    "nError" : 0,
    "nWarning" : 0,
    "nUsage" : 1
  },
  "publication" : {
    "publisher" : null,
    "title" : "backlink test",
    "creator" : [ ],
    "date" : "2025-06-21T18:54:55Z",
    "subject" : [ ],
    "description" : null,
    "rights" : null,
    "identifier" : "urn:uuid:15d02007-6607-431f-be22-581de695ebdf",
    "language" : "en",
    "nSpines" : 2,
    "checkSum" : 0,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "ePubVersion" : "3.3",
    "isScripted" : false,
    "hasFixedFormat" : false,
    "isBackwardCompatible" : false,
    "hasAudio" : false,
    "hasVideo" : false,
    "charsCount" : 218,
    "embeddedFonts" : [ ],
    "refFonts" : [ ],
    "hasEncryption" : false,
    "hasSignatures" : false,
    "contributors" : [ ]
  },
  "items" : [ {
    "id" : "Section0001.xhtml",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml",
    "media_type" : "application/xhtml+xml",
    "compressedSize" : 280,
    "uncompressedSize" : 456,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "bb2932f84166f7ae12b1c71e4918fbf18996d1aadbad4dc943bcfd71bee634",
    "isSpineItem" : true,
    "spineIndex" : 0,
    "isLinear" : true,
    "isFixedFormat" : false,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "referencedItems" : [ "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml#en1" ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:META-INF/container.xml",
    "fileName" : "META-INF/container.xml",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 180,
    "uncompressedSize" : 265,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "83e412f1ac7d52a9f73d82d26c9ce241591c60b8e9c384956e9e588e1d5fc",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:OEBPS/content.opf",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/content.opf",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 428,
    "uncompressedSize" : 912,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "afd0bacff9dda1cae13c6b2ba5952345adc4c26fbee84ef84236cd2d3e3ea8",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:mimetype",
    "fileName" : "mimetype",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 20,
    "uncompressedSize" : 20,
    "compressionMethod" : "Stored",
    "checkSum" : "e468e350d1143eb648f6c7bbd63111ec544a361ca74ecef256ac91f48b",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "nav.xhtml",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Text/nav.xhtml",
    "media_type" : "application/xhtml+xml",
    "compressedSize" : 368,
    "uncompressedSize" : 741,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "c4e8b5e345a9ab3c2b6dc8fa54253309213d2fab9dbb322abcf4cfd441",
    "isSpineItem" : true,
    "spineIndex" : 1,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : false,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "referencedItems" : [ "OEBPS/Styles/sgc-nav.css", "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml", "OEBPS/Text/nav.xhtml#toc" ]
  }, {
    "id" : "sgc-nav.css",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Styles/sgc-nav.css",
    "media_type" : "text/css",
    "compressedSize" : 151,
    "uncompressedSize" : 275,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "d7bc6622fc698f2beeaeea31a6f4123de3d71536ca69c6673a1e28f2064c372",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  } ]
}

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

If you're using my Sigil plugin, you'll need to add/edit this line in EpubCheck.json.

Code:

  "usage": true,

Or if you're using the command line:

Code:

java -jar "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\sigil-ebook\sigil\plugins\EpubCheck\epubcheck.jar" "C:\Users\user\Downloads\backlink.epub" -u --json -

The output will be:

Spoiler:

Code:

No errors or warnings detected.
{
  "messages" : [ {
    "ID" : "OPF-088",
    "severity" : "USAGE",
    "message" : "Unrecognized epub:type value \"backlink\".",
    "additionalLocations" : 0,
    "locations" : [ {
      "url" : {
        "opaque" : false,
        "hierarchical" : true
      },
      "path" : "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml",
      "line" : 12,
      "column" : 116,
      "context" : null
    } ],
    "suggestion" : null
  } ],
  "customMessageFileName" : null,
  "checker" : {
    "path" : ".\\Downloads\\backlink.epub",
    "filename" : "backlink.epub",
    "checkerVersion" : "5.2.1",
    "checkDate" : "06-21-2025 18:57:32",
    "elapsedTime" : 32994,
    "nFatal" : 0,
    "nError" : 0,
    "nWarning" : 0,
    "nUsage" : 1
  },
  "publication" : {
    "publisher" : null,
    "title" : "backlink test",
    "creator" : [ ],
    "date" : "2025-06-21T18:54:55Z",
    "subject" : [ ],
    "description" : null,
    "rights" : null,
    "identifier" : "urn:uuid:15d02007-6607-431f-be22-581de695ebdf",
    "language" : "en",
    "nSpines" : 2,
    "checkSum" : 0,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "ePubVersion" : "3.3",
    "isScripted" : false,
    "hasFixedFormat" : false,
    "isBackwardCompatible" : false,
    "hasAudio" : false,
    "hasVideo" : false,
    "charsCount" : 218,
    "embeddedFonts" : [ ],
    "refFonts" : [ ],
    "hasEncryption" : false,
    "hasSignatures" : false,
    "contributors" : [ ]
  },
  "items" : [ {
    "id" : "Section0001.xhtml",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml",
    "media_type" : "application/xhtml+xml",
    "compressedSize" : 280,
    "uncompressedSize" : 456,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "bb2932f84166f7ae12b1c71e4918fbf18996d1aadbad4dc943bcfd71bee634",
    "isSpineItem" : true,
    "spineIndex" : 0,
    "isLinear" : true,
    "isFixedFormat" : false,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "referencedItems" : [ "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml#en1" ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:META-INF/container.xml",
    "fileName" : "META-INF/container.xml",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 180,
    "uncompressedSize" : 265,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "83e412f1ac7d52a9f73d82d26c9ce241591c60b8e9c384956e9e588e1d5fc",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:OEBPS/content.opf",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/content.opf",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 428,
    "uncompressedSize" : 912,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "afd0bacff9dda1cae13c6b2ba5952345adc4c26fbee84ef84236cd2d3e3ea8",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "ePubCheck.NoManifestRef:mimetype",
    "fileName" : "mimetype",
    "media_type" : null,
    "compressedSize" : 20,
    "uncompressedSize" : 20,
    "compressionMethod" : "Stored",
    "checkSum" : "e468e350d1143eb648f6c7bbd63111ec544a361ca74ecef256ac91f48b",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  }, {
    "id" : "nav.xhtml",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Text/nav.xhtml",
    "media_type" : "application/xhtml+xml",
    "compressedSize" : 368,
    "uncompressedSize" : 741,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "c4e8b5e345a9ab3c2b6dc8fa54253309213d2fab9dbb322abcf4cfd441",
    "isSpineItem" : true,
    "spineIndex" : 1,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : false,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : "reflowable",
    "renditionOrientation" : "auto",
    "renditionSpread" : "auto",
    "referencedItems" : [ "OEBPS/Styles/sgc-nav.css", "OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml", "OEBPS/Text/nav.xhtml#toc" ]
  }, {
    "id" : "sgc-nav.css",
    "fileName" : "OEBPS/Styles/sgc-nav.css",
    "media_type" : "text/css",
    "compressedSize" : 151,
    "uncompressedSize" : 275,
    "compressionMethod" : "Deflated",
    "checkSum" : "d7bc6622fc698f2beeaeea31a6f4123de3d71536ca69c6673a1e28f2064c372",
    "isSpineItem" : false,
    "spineIndex" : null,
    "isLinear" : false,
    "isFixedFormat" : null,
    "isScripted" : false,
    "renditionLayout" : null,
    "renditionOrientation" : null,
    "renditionSpread" : null,
    "referencedItems" : [ ]
  } ]
}

We should file an official bug report with epubcheck to update its epub3 structural semantics vocabulary to the very latest 1.1 standard just released in March.

Does the info also barf when epub:type="backlink" is replaced by much older epub:type="referrer"?

Doitsu · 06-21-2025, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

Does the info also barf when epub:type="backlink" is replaced by much older epub:type="referrer"?

No.

BTW, I checked the latest specs and backlink still has a draft status.

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

No.

BTW, I checked the latest specs and backlink still has a draft status.

But "referrer" is gone. It has not been on the list in years. It is not even just deprecated.

So to follow the spec we either need to drop support for both epub:type="referrer" as it is no longer part of the official vocabulary (and has not been for years) or we replace it with the draft backlink but it has been draft for years.

Either way, the bug is in epubcheck.

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 02:34 PM

I have opened the following issue in epubcheck explaining the situation. Hopefully they will modify a future version of epubcheck to do "the right thing" whatever that is.

My hope is the powers that be will formally adopt the draft "backlink" and epubcheck will support it properly or maybe return "referrer" to the standard vocabulary list.

One or the other should work.

https://github.com/w3c/epubcheck/issues/1617

Doitsu · 06-21-2025, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

I have opened the following issue in epubcheck explaining the situation. Hopefully they will modify a future version of epubcheck to do "the right thing" whatever that is.

FYI: when you run EPUCheck with the optional -u/--usage parameter, it'll output the following message:

USAGE(OPF-088): C:/Users/user/Downloads/backlink.epub/OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml(12,116): Unrecognized epub:type value "backlink".

In JSON mode, it'll be:

Code:

  "messages" : [ {
    "ID" : "OPF-088",
    "severity" : "USAGE",
    "message" : "Unrecognized epub:type value \"backlink\".",
    "additionalLocations" : 0,
    "locations" : [ {
      "url" : {
        "opaque" : false,
        "hierarchical" : true
      }

(Since it's neither a warning nor an error I mapped it to an INFO message in Sigil.)

If you hear back from the EPUBCheck devs, they'll probably want to know the message code, which is "OPF-088."

Since this message, which is neither a warning nor an error, is only shown if the optional -u/--usage parameter is specified hardly anybody will ever see it anyway.

EDIT: I've just found this 2016(!) post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Garrish

There was a draft property named referrer, but was changed to backlink during the process of creating the DPUB-ARIA vocabulary.

The change has to be made to the edupub spec, too, but as that work is on hiatus at the moment we haven't had an opportunity to do it.

Epubcheck won't validate backlink until it gets updated to reflect the changes made during the 3.1 revision. It is the correct term to be using moving forward, though.

(Emphasis mine)

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 04:07 PM

Hi All,

I took a shot at making Aria Clips be a bit smarted about the _N_ and with \\1.

Now if I want a footnote div with _N_ being 3 and I was marking up existing text I could do the following, assume this is my existing text (or that I added it by hand)

Code:

[3] The text of my footnote goes here.

Then highlight that footnote including its leading number in CV and Insert a Aria Clip with footnote div.

It should now produce the following:

Code:

<div id="fn3" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote">
  <p>
    <a href="#ref_fn3" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[3]</a>
    This is the text of my footnote.
  </p>
</div>

Hopefully this will help speed things up when handling markup of existing text.

It works similarly for footnote with aside, footnote with div, and endnote in li.

It also works just on the _N_ field in footnote ref, footnote backlink, endnote ref, endnote_backlink, and pagebreak_span

I am still working on positioning the cursor into the empty section and aside tags. I have not figured out a way to do that easily (yet).

I have pushed all of this to Sigil master with deploy and will post new Beta-3 builds shortly.

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 04:16 PM

Hi Doitsu,

Wonderful. I have liberally copied and pasted this extra information into my issue on epubcheck, with the hope it clarifies things. They should simply remove that check or accept backlink.

Thanks,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

FYI: when you run EPUCheck with the optional -u/--usage parameter, it'll output the following message:

USAGE(OPF-088): C:/Users/user/Downloads/backlink.epub/OEBPS/Text/Section0001.xhtml(12,116): Unrecognized epub:type value "backlink".

In JSON mode, it'll be:

Code:

  "messages" : [ {
    "ID" : "OPF-088",
    "severity" : "USAGE",
    "message" : "Unrecognized epub:type value \"backlink\".",
    "additionalLocations" : 0,
    "locations" : [ {
      "url" : {
        "opaque" : false,
        "hierarchical" : true
      }

(Since it's neither a warning nor an error I mapped it to an INFO message in Sigil.)

If you hear back from the EPUBCheck devs, they'll probably want to know the message code, which is "OPF-088."

Since this message, which is neither a warning nor an error, is only shown if the optional -u/--usage parameter is specified hardly anybody will ever see it anyway.

EDIT: I've just found this 2016(!) post:

(Emphasis mine)

KevinH · 06-21-2025, 04:36 PM

Okay I have posted a Sigil 2.6.0 Beta-3 builds to play and test with. It should now support the "smarter" clips by gleaning number from text selected in CV.

They are all unsigned direct from our github CI builds.

There are available on the Releases page of one of my github repositories:

https://github.com/kevinhendricks/Bu...OnMac/releases

Of course, for anyone who builds their own, you can build from current official Sigil master.

All feedback welcome.

KevinH

philja · 06-21-2025, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doitsu

This is an INFO message that is shown, because you've enabled the Usage option in EpubCheck.json via:

Code:

  "usage": true,

Apparently, the EPUBCheck devs decided way back in 2019 to report all epub:type value checks as USAGE messages and it doesn't look like that they've updated the usage checker code in a while...

Great ! You've cracked it and I've learnt that blue messages are info and not warnings.

I checked the EpubCheck.json file in my Linux box and you're right - "usage":true

I then went to my W10 box and found "usage": false. I set it to true and voila!, W10 also announces that epub:type value "backlink" is unrecognised.

Curiously, I have no recollection of ever having edited the EpubCheck.json file in any of my machines. But now I have, I've set "usage": false on all boxes.

philja · 06-21-2025, 05:32 PM

Beta 3 with the revised footnote clips works well on my linux box. All the ref no's and highlighted text were correctly placed.

When you have several footnotes at the end of a chapter, having each one wrapped in <div> tags makes for an ugly load of code. If the

Code:

 <div id="fn2" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote">

could be placed in the <p> tag and a second lot of <div> tags eliminated, it would be much neater. For example,

Code:

<div>
  <p id="fn1" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote">
    <a href="#ref_fn1" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[1]</a>
    TEXT_OF_FOOTNOTE_HERE
  </p>
  <p id="fn2" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote">
    <a href="#ref_fn2" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[2]</a>
    for more info on this item, look at chapter 6
  </p>
</div>

I've tried it out with a couple of footnotes inside a single set of <div> tags and with the id's in the <p> tags and EpubCheck lets it pass ok.

Would that violate any rules?

06-21-2025, 04:07 PM	#41
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,704 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Hi All, I took a shot at making Aria Clips be a bit smarted about the _N_ and with \\1. Now if I want a footnote div with _N_ being 3 and I was marking up existing text I could do the following, assume this is my existing text (or that I added it by hand) Code: [3] The text of my footnote goes here. Then highlight that footnote including its leading number in CV and Insert a Aria Clip with footnote div. It should now produce the following: Code: <div id="fn3" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote"> <p> <a href="#ref_fn3" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[3]</a> This is the text of my footnote. </p> </div> Hopefully this will help speed things up when handling markup of existing text. It works similarly for footnote with aside, footnote with div, and endnote in li. It also works just on the _N_ field in footnote ref, footnote backlink, endnote ref, endnote_backlink, and pagebreak_span I am still working on positioning the cursor into the empty section and aside tags. I have not figured out a way to do that easily (yet). I have pushed all of this to Sigil master with deploy and will post new Beta-3 builds shortly.

06-21-2025, 05:32 PM	#45
philja Addict Posts: 262 Karma: 516 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Europe EEC Device: Kindle Fire HD6 & HD8	Beta 3 with the revised footnote clips works well on my linux box. All the ref no's and highlighted text were correctly placed. When you have several footnotes at the end of a chapter, having each one wrapped in <div> tags makes for an ugly load of code. If the Code: <div id="fn2" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote"> could be placed in the <p> tag and a second lot of <div> tags eliminated, it would be much neater. For example, Code: <div> <p id="fn1" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote"> <a href="#ref_fn1" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[1]</a> TEXT_OF_FOOTNOTE_HERE </p> <p id="fn2" epub:type="footnote" role="doc-footnote"> <a href="#ref_fn2" epub:type="backlink" role="doc-backlink">[2]</a> for more info on this item, look at chapter 6 </p> </div> I've tried it out with a couple of footnotes inside a single set of <div> tags and with the id's in the <p> tags and EpubCheck lets it pass ok. Would that violate any rules?

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06-21-2025, 12:40 PM	#33
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,525 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'm not getting the "Unrecognized epub:type value 'backlink'" warning on Linux with the Beta 2 AppImage. New Epub3; ipsum lorem text; made a footnote with backlink using the Aria Clips. Using version 0.4.7.1 of the EpubCheck plugin (with version 5.2.1 of Epubcheck).

06-21-2025, 02:34 PM	#39
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,704 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	I have opened the following issue in epubcheck explaining the situation. Hopefully they will modify a future version of epubcheck to do "the right thing" whatever that is. My hope is the powers that be will formally adopt the draft "backlink" and epubcheck will support it properly or maybe return "referrer" to the standard vocabulary list. One or the other should work. https://github.com/w3c/epubcheck/issues/1617

06-21-2025, 04:36 PM	#43
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,704 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Okay I have posted a Sigil 2.6.0 Beta-3 builds to play and test with. It should now support the "smarter" clips by gleaning number from text selected in CV. They are all unsigned direct from our github CI builds. There are available on the Releases page of one of my github repositories: https://github.com/kevinhendricks/Bu...OnMac/releases Of course, for anyone who builds their own, you can build from current official Sigil master. All feedback welcome. KevinH

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