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Renate · 11-08-2022, 12:50 PM

I have no idea of the differences between the black and white Leaf 2.
I just like a flush display and I wouldn't buy something with a bezel.
OTOH, my desktop display has a bezel and it doesn't kill me.
Still, I don't poke my desktop.

Remember the good ol' days of CRT where the glass would show up any touch of grease?
You always had a co-worker who would point things out on your screen with their fat fingers.

kekinash · 11-08-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster59

The only place I have found that states that the Leaf 2 has Carta 1200 is GoodEReader. I can't speak for everyone, but that wouldn't be enough to convince me!

Edit: I have found some claims that the white version of Leaf 2 offers better reading experience than the black version because the white version is recessed while the black version's display is flush with the bezel. Would that factor alone make any real difference in display quality?

I have the black one and yes, more layer on top of the display less sharp is going to be the text, but Boox did a great job offering us tools to enhance the text and images, so for me is perfect. As for carta 1200, yes both models have the carta 1200. display, the can call it publicly, due, and that's my speculation, they didn't pay for the rights for using that name.

downeaster59 · 11-08-2022, 05:33 PM

I'll find out soon enough. I'm in the USA. I ordered my Leaf 2 from Ereader Store in Germany yesterday. It's scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. That's impressive!

Renate · 11-08-2022, 05:50 PM

Actually, all the contrast stuff that Onyx does just annoys me.
Even with all the controls set to off KCB.apk still does strange things.
Thin vertical lines disappear, white on light gray turns to a solid white blob.
The only way that I got peace was with "pm disable com.onyx".

kandwo · 11-09-2022, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster59

The only place I have found that states that the Leaf 2 has Carta 1200 is GoodEReader. I can't speak for everyone, but that wouldn't be enough to convince me!

Edit: I have found some claims that the white version of Leaf 2 offers better reading experience than the black version because the white version is recessed while the black version's display is flush with the bezel. Would that factor alone make any real difference in display quality?

Yes, having a recessed screen definitely makes a difference. The only exception to this is the Kindle Voyage, which still has one of the best screens to date.

Report back when you have it in your hands

Do you have any reader with Carta 1200 to compare it to?

downeaster59 · 11-09-2022, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandwo

Yes, having a recessed screen definitely makes a difference. The only exception to this is the Kindle Voyage, which still has one of the best screens to date.

Report back when you have it in your hands

Do you have any reader with Carta 1200 to compare it to?

No, I don't. I have a Note Air 2, which has a larger display but less DPI. I have a Nook Glowlight 4, a 6 inch display with 300 dpi. I also have an older Onyx Boox Nova2. None of these are 1200, of course, but comparisons with the Nook or Nova could be useful.

downeaster59 · 11-09-2022, 11:21 AM

My Leaf 2 has arrived! However, the one I received is the black one with the flush display. The Ereader store website said that they have the white one. That's not a big deal for me as such, though I will contact Ereader Store to tell them.

I'm in the process of setting up my Leaf 2 now. It's downloading and installing a firmware update. I've set up Play Store.

The Leaf reminds me of the original Amazon Oasis in size and appearance.

I have a microSD card and I am wondering if I can set it up for the device to use as additional internal storage. Its default mode is to set up the card as portable storage to transfer files from one device to another.

Renate · 11-09-2022, 12:01 PM

If you want it as internal you might want to format it ext2 or ext4.
You might have to change something to do that.

downeaster59 · 11-09-2022, 02:26 PM

I can save books to the microSD card and the Library can access them. So that won't be an issue. It would be an issue only for apps I install from Play Store. I plan to install only a few apps, and only one of them will need much in the way of storage, so it may not be an issue. The Leaf 2 has 32 GB of internal storage as it is.

It also has two physical page turn buttons. In its Settings, it is possible to remap these buttons to some extent. The physical buttons work in KOReader and in Moon Reader.

I haven't had the chance to do much actual reading with the Leaf 2 yet. I like the look and feel of it. It's quite thin and light.

Renate · 11-09-2022, 02:38 PM

Please try UsbMode and tell me if they are still filtering keystrokes so that action only occurs on release of the keys.
If they aren't, the little down triangle will appear while you are still pressing the button.
If they are, an up/down will occur only when you release the button.

CrazyCoder · 11-09-2022, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renate

Please try UsbMode and tell me if they are still filtering keystrokes so that action only occurs on release of the keys.
If they aren't, the little down triangle will appear while you are still pressing the button.
If they are, an up/down will occur only when you release the button.

They appear to be filtered. I guess it's because it has a setting to bind custom actions to long press of the buttons and in order to recognized long presses you have to wait until the button is released.

downeaster59 · 11-09-2022, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renate

Please try UsbMode and tell me if they are still filtering keystrokes so that action only occurs on release of the keys.
If they aren't, the little down triangle will appear while you are still pressing the button.
If they are, an up/down will occur only when you release the button.

The little triangle only appears after I release the button, not while I am still pressing it!

For what it's worth, the CPU is listed as Qualcomm SCUBAPIIOT. A four-core CPU.

Renate · 11-09-2022, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster59

The little triangle only appears after I release the button, not while I am still pressing it!

Ok, they are still doing the same silliness.
If you care, look at this thread (and I'll fix it for you): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=349950

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster59

For what it's worth, the CPU is listed as Qualcomm SCUBAPIIOT. A four-core CPU.

Yeah, we had warnings of this.
It seems that Qualcomm was not satisfied with only MSM numbers and SDM numbers and so they had to come up with stupid names (q.v. "Bengal")
I had reported this earlier as Snapdragon 630. (Maybe 620?)
Still, it's a step down from the 636 octocore in the Poke3.

downeaster59 · 11-09-2022, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renate

Ok, they are still doing the same silliness.
If you care, look at this thread (and I'll fix it for you): https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=349950

The physical buttons work for apps like KOReader and Moon Reader, but don't seem to work at all for a few other apps. It's a problem similar to the one I encountered with the Nook GL 4 a while back. I don't know if root is necessary for this, but I posted the strings for the Leaf 2 at the Github site of the decryptBooxUpdateUpx folks, just in case that comes in handy. What I'd like to do is to be able to use the physical buttons as page turn buttons in a couple of other apps without losing that functionality in NeoReader.

I've glanced at the thread you pointed me to. From what I understand, your framework.jar patch would eliminate delays in how the device responds to button input - which would definitely be a good thing! I don't know if it would allow more apps to make use of the buttons, though.

Renate · 11-09-2022, 06:19 PM

Well, it also prevents the VolUp/Dn / PgUp/Dn mapping from occurring.
My philosophy has always been to have fixed key mapping and if any app gives me trouble to patch that.
Some people want to use a context sensitive mapping.

It's all stupid. An app should try to make sense of any key it receives. It should never just not respond.
PgDn to an audio player? Mmm, maybe it should lower the volume?

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11-08-2022, 12:50 PM	#31
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	I have no idea of the differences between the black and white Leaf 2. I just like a flush display and I wouldn't buy something with a bezel. OTOH, my desktop display has a bezel and it doesn't kill me. Still, I don't poke my desktop. Remember the good ol' days of CRT where the glass would show up any touch of grease? You always had a co-worker who would point things out on your screen with their fat fingers.

11-08-2022, 05:33 PM	#33
downeaster59 Wizard Posts: 1,251 Karma: 2957301 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester, NY Device: Boox Go 10.3, Kobo Libra 2	I'll find out soon enough. I'm in the USA. I ordered my Leaf 2 from Ereader Store in Germany yesterday. It's scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. That's impressive!

11-08-2022, 05:50 PM	#34
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	Actually, all the contrast stuff that Onyx does just annoys me. Even with all the controls set to off KCB.apk still does strange things. Thin vertical lines disappear, white on light gray turns to a solid white blob. The only way that I got peace was with "pm disable com.onyx".

11-09-2022, 11:21 AM	#37
downeaster59 Wizard Posts: 1,251 Karma: 2957301 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester, NY Device: Boox Go 10.3, Kobo Libra 2	My Leaf 2 has arrived! However, the one I received is the black one with the flush display. The Ereader store website said that they have the white one. That's not a big deal for me as such, though I will contact Ereader Store to tell them. I'm in the process of setting up my Leaf 2 now. It's downloading and installing a firmware update. I've set up Play Store. The Leaf reminds me of the original Amazon Oasis in size and appearance. I have a microSD card and I am wondering if I can set it up for the device to use as additional internal storage. Its default mode is to set up the card as portable storage to transfer files from one device to another.

11-09-2022, 12:01 PM	#38
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	If you want it as internal you might want to format it ext2 or ext4. You might have to change something to do that.

11-09-2022, 02:26 PM	#39
downeaster59 Wizard Posts: 1,251 Karma: 2957301 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester, NY Device: Boox Go 10.3, Kobo Libra 2	I can save books to the microSD card and the Library can access them. So that won't be an issue. It would be an issue only for apps I install from Play Store. I plan to install only a few apps, and only one of them will need much in the way of storage, so it may not be an issue. The Leaf 2 has 32 GB of internal storage as it is. It also has two physical page turn buttons. In its Settings, it is possible to remap these buttons to some extent. The physical buttons work in KOReader and in Moon Reader. I haven't had the chance to do much actual reading with the Leaf 2 yet. I like the look and feel of it. It's quite thin and light.

11-09-2022, 02:38 PM	#40
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	Please try UsbMode and tell me if they are still filtering keystrokes so that action only occurs on release of the keys. If they aren't, the little down triangle will appear while you are still pressing the button. If they are, an up/down will occur only when you release the button.

11-09-2022, 06:19 PM	#45
Renate Onyx-maniac Posts: 3,924 Karma: 17500001 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Nook NST, Glow2, 3, 4, '21, Kobo Aura2, Poke3, Poke5, Go6	Well, it also prevents the VolUp/Dn / PgUp/Dn mapping from occurring. My philosophy has always been to have fixed key mapping and if any app gives me trouble to patch that. Some people want to use a context sensitive mapping. It's all stupid. An app should try to make sense of any key it receives. It should never just not respond. PgDn to an audio player? Mmm, maybe it should lower the volume?

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