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Also, thank you for reminding me of asterisks. They are the perfect answer to not knowing if and where scene breaks will coincide with page breaks. |
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Ebooks should follow the spirit of the print version, not try to "replicate it exactly". ![]() I recently discussed some of this this (and referenced to a lot of other fantastic threads) in "Colored Text, EPUB, Android Dark Mode" (Post #14). |
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When I say "change it on the reader", I mean that I *must* be able to (at the very least) change the font (both size and variant), line height, and margins. I would like to be able to set the justification and boldness level as well, but those aren't *as* important as the others. Bottom line is, if you want to do fancy formatting, that's fine, as long as it doesn't break the reading options in the reader. Shari |
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That is how I understand it from twenty years of writing HTML and CSS code for websites. That is how webbrowers work. But then I'm new to writing ebook code and unfamiliar with most reader soft- and hardware. Have you actually had both styled ebooks where you could override the styling and styled ebooks where you couldn't (on the same reader)? |
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Ebook renderers don't work the same as Web Browsers. It's a subset of HTML and CSS with a few extras. Generally Font Size in the CSS isn't a problem unless it's insanely coded. The reader GUI will scale up or down the text and reflow. Which happens on desktop browsers. But WHY are the Mobile Browsers on Android so broken? They simply zoom the whole page as if it's a PDF, no reflow! Line height entries should not exist in the CSS. Most readers can't over-ride it. In Calibre you set Line Height = 0% and Minimum Line Height = 0% to ensure that on a conversion there is no line height setting at all in the CSS. No setting = Use browser or Ereader default. Which is NOT the same as 0 (Zero). The important margin settings are top and bottom of paragraphs. Readers will generally only overide the outermost margin settings allowing indented block quotes, preambles, poetry etc as well as a first line indent (preferable to top & bottom margins on body text paragraphs on small screens). Ereaders unlike web browsers do have widow and orphan settings. A setting of 1 means don't process, a setting of 0 is meaningless, but many readers take that as 1. IMO it's sad that there is no built in option on Web Browsers to paginate an HTML document to the size of a window. The Browser on the Kindle DXG does and it's nicer to navigate than scrolling. |
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Removing "But" would help, but it would still add nothing to the discussion. Specifying "a body font size of smaller then 1em" is still specifying a body font size, so it was already covered by "There is no valid reason to specify the font size for the main body text in an ebook.". |
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I sure have see bigger number (and a .7588 in the P or DIV) I also hat those 1.4 (main text) line heights. Who are they trying to kid ![]() ![]() 1.2 matches most paperbacks (and is the default if left out) |
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I took the comment to mean overall. with nested blocks inheriting or modifying from there. AKA the Content |
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