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Old 07-08-2020, 03:17 PM   #31
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Why is it that the PW3 is dead yet other 7th gen hardware is not?
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The PW3 got replaced with the PW4. The Voyage never got replaced. So the Voyage is the newest in its line. Just like when the PW1 got dropped like a hot potato once the PW2 came out. My PW1 still works just as well as when it received the last update.
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But the PW3 may not work well since a lot of PW3s are now sitting stuck on 5.12.4 (because of an Amazon botch job) which is a heck of a mess and needs to be replaced.
You haven't answered jhowell's question yet.
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Old 07-08-2020, 03:19 PM   #32
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You haven't answered jhowell's question yet.
Because maybe someone will have an answer who didn't read the question before.
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Old 07-08-2020, 04:18 PM   #33
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But the PW3 may not work well since a lot of PW3s are now sitting stuck on 5.12.4 (because of an Amazon botch job) which is a heck of a mess and needs to be replaced.
Does your personal PW3 work well? If it does, then there is no need for you to worry any longer.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:26 PM   #34
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If I had a PW3 (well, I do but it is on loan to a friend), I would be having the same question as JSWolf. There does not seem to be any technical reason why it would not get the same updates as the Voyage, as it has in the past. It is a perfectly reasonable expectation to have.

Unfortunately we don’t have a Kindle developer or product manager here to explain things, so idle speculation is about all we can bring to the discussion (which of course could have its own thread for those interested in carrying on with one).

If I were to speculate, they messed up somewhere along the way and have bricked some PW3’s and had to pull the update pending a broader investigation into the causes. I say this as someone whose Voyage got bricked by an update earlier this year (CS blamed me for doing something ‘wrong’, though it is not clear how that could be true). There are more PW3s in circulation so the bar to ensure they have actually fixed the issue is higher.
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Old 07-13-2020, 08:35 AM   #35
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Does your personal PW3 work well? If it does, then there is no need for you to worry any longer.
But it doesn't work well. It has the cover bug that needs fixing and it might have the buggy Bookerly. Updating my PW3 would not fix this. With 5.13.1, has Amazon fixed the cover bug and has Bookerly had hinting returned?

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Old 07-13-2020, 09:43 AM   #36
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The Voyage never got replaced. So the Voyage is the newest in its line.
By that reasoning the Kindle DX would still be updated. It is not, it runs 2.5.8.
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Old 07-13-2020, 12:02 PM   #37
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By that reasoning the Kindle DX would still be updated. It is not, it runs 2.5.8.
The DX has severe hardware limitations that prevented it from getting KF8 along with Kindle 1 and 2.
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Old 07-13-2020, 12:16 PM   #38
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But it doesn't work well. It has the cover bug that needs fixing and it might have the buggy Bookerly. Updating my PW3 would not fix this. With 5.13.1, has Amazon fixed the cover bug and has Bookerly had hinting returned?
I am not quite sure that Amazon agrees that the cover issue is actually a bug. And couldn't tell if 5.13.1 changes that behavior, or if Bookerly got fixed. None of my Oasis, nor my PW3 obviously, have 5.13.1 yet. I am not in a rush, especially since installing a new FW no longer guarantees new features due to the horrid staggered rollout that Amazon does now. It took until 5.13.1 came out for me to get the dark mode switch in 5.12.5.
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Old 07-13-2020, 12:55 PM   #39
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No, Bookerly has not been fixed in 5.13.1.
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I am having random touch/taps on screen with 5.13.1 is anyone having a some issue or should I see for hardware issue
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Old 07-14-2020, 01:17 PM   #41
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I am not quite sure that Amazon agrees that the cover issue is actually a bug. And couldn't tell if 5.13.1 changes that behavior, or if Bookerly got fixed. None of my Oasis, nor my PW3 obviously, have 5.13.1 yet. I am not in a rush, especially since installing a new FW no longer guarantees new features due to the horrid staggered rollout that Amazon does now. It took until 5.13.1 came out for me to get the dark mode switch in 5.12.5.
I did side load something a Kindle eBook the other day and the cover bug happened. I did edit the eBook in the Calibre editor to fix a few things. But I did not change the ASIN. SO why did the cover bug happen?

I'll try side loading without using the Calibre editor and see how that works.
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I did side load something a Kindle eBook the other day and the cover bug happened. I did edit the eBook in the Calibre editor to fix a few things. But I did not change the ASIN. SO why did the cover bug happen?

I'll try side loading without using the Calibre editor and see how that works.
Iirc, @jhowell explained before that the “cover bug” users are complaining about is intentional behavior on Amazon’s part on the newer firmwares.

I have a couple of Kindles primarily used with Kindle Unlimited that I allow to automatically update just to see what’s new in the latest firmwares. Frankly, there’s been no noteworthy features that I find worth updating for. I actually find the new Aa menu annoying.

Still happily using 5.9.6.1 on my JB PW3s and 5.10.1.3 on my JB PW4s.

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I did side load something a Kindle eBook the other day and the cover bug happened. I did edit the eBook in the Calibre editor to fix a few things. But I did not change the ASIN. SO why did the cover bug happen?

Forgive my ignorance but what is the "cover bug" exactly?


I know I could probably trawl through all of the posts and maybe find it but hopefully somebody will take pity on me and explain
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Forgive my ignorance but what is the "cover bug" exactly?
From the calibre FAQ: Covers for books I send to my e-ink Kindle show up momentarily and then are replaced by a generic cover?
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Thank you, I only sideload my books with Wi-Fi off so I've not come across this bug. I can see how it would be annoying for some people though.
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