![]() |
#31 | |
hopeless n00b
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5,110
Karma: 19597086
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: in the middle of nowhere
Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9
|
Quote:
You're really unlikely to notice the screen size reduction between the 8" Forma and 7.8" Aura. Found a comparison of the two. https://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...-review-video/ Last edited by ilovejedd; 10-14-2020 at 07:05 PM. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#32 | ||
hopeless n00b
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5,110
Karma: 19597086
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: in the middle of nowhere
Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9
|
Quote:
If your source images are >1680 pixels in height, then you're losing detail with the Libra. Quote:
|
||
![]() |
![]() |
Advert | |
|
![]() |
#33 | |
Member
![]() Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2020
Device: none yet
|
Quote:
So u stick with size as the factor of quality difference ok. 2 last q.q: - will 7.8 aura one/forma = onyx kon - tiki or onyx nova 1? Both have same details besides some carta PLUS (not normal one as in Kobo tho) e-ink. Also there is a matter of lighting of e-reader between those 2 companies....will it affect much the quality? - what is this this GRAY SCALE and how much Kobo got (Onyx has 16). |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#34 | ||
Junior Member
![]() Posts: 4
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Europoor
Device: Kindle 4NT, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra H2O
|
Quote:
Quote:
![]() I didn't realize e-ink uses so few colours... I guess it's enough for casual reading (which is what I'm after), but it's a shame we can't have more. This person was able to increase it to 32, but I'm guessing it's no easy feat. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#35 | |
hopeless n00b
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5,110
Karma: 19597086
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: in the middle of nowhere
Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9
|
Quote:
It's not just size. It's a combination of size and pixel density. In this case, the Forma and Aura ONE are both 300 ppi and roughly around the same size, hence image resolution should be very close. All of them pretty much use the same e-ink display anyway as I believe there's only one manufacturer. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
Advert | |
|
![]() |
#36 | |
Guru
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 767
Karma: 10000000
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Somewhere in Time
Device: Forma, iPad Mini
|
Quote:
Aura ONE Manga Edition is identical hardware and software to Aura ONE except it has 32GB storage instead of 8GB. NB: I prefer Forma because physical buttons. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#37 |
Still reading
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 14,098
Karma: 105211945
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper
|
There are really fourteen shades of grey, back and nearly white on all eink readers except really old screens which have four levels, i.e. black, dull white and two greys.
The ereader may dither images which adds more apparent shades. That's not too bad at 300 dpi, newer screens, but can be more obvious on older poor resolution screens. Colour is always going to be poorer. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#38 | ||
Member
![]() Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2020
Device: none yet
|
hm
Quote:
For that I wrote to Goodereader for manga source, asked him to compare Onyx Nova vs Forma manga with this site & if I obtain this Naruto page source - gonna send it to Onyx team (they already agreed to do the test). Quote:
To me, manga is page turning by hand, so imitating it with a device without buttons seems good. Still, am afraid that other yet similar to Forma won't just do - that is showcase very same picture from my example. Is it possible for u to reproduce this comparison? Show us Naruto page side by side with those 2 e-readers? It would help me a lot. |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#39 | |
Resident Curmudgeon
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 79,786
Karma: 146391129
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#40 |
Zealot
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 149
Karma: 4719872
Join Date: Jul 2019
Device: Hibreak Pro, Mira, Paperlike Colour
|
‘I'm not a fan of the Android readers. They run very obsolete verisons of the OS with all of the problems this entails.’
At points, this has been true. But all the current Onyx models are Android 9/10. My son reads manga for 5 hours every day on his Nova Pro - that it’s Android 6 has never been an issue. The ideal size is 7”, but 6” is fine if you have good eyesight. 8” you’ll notice quality issues in poor sources more, but again it’s not a big deal. With say a poke 2, you’d have a device that could have new chapters automatically delivered as soon as they’re available. Either from commercial apps, or Tachiyomi. That’s a massive timesaver, especially for ongoing series. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#41 | |
Resident Curmudgeon
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 79,786
Karma: 146391129
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#42 | ||
Member
![]() Posts: 22
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2020
Device: none yet
|
![]() Quote:
Quote:
Maybe You Sir could show us This Naruto manga 72 page on Your son Nova Pro for our little comparison https://ibb.co/311QSZ5 ? Would appreciate the help ps. found the perfect sized (more of a display itself shape: long but less wide. Just look how page is fitting the screen!): Onyx N96ML https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MDulWjZGgrM/maxresdefault.jpg https://www.bookrunch.com/pics/news/1454951338.jpg Onyx is planning its version 2: Boox Note S e-Reader hmmmmmmmmmm However it seems dat to achieve Forma quality over Libra we would have to buy their 10.3 Boox Note https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k0fSTQgStVg/maxresdefault.jpg As for Nova Pro, there was only 1 dimmed photo with washed out effects on the whole internet so not so much a review;/// https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GUaaTDY2uNQ/maxresdefault.jpg But MAYBE 7.8 inches Nova Pro / 2 or Kin - Toki Onyx will give us same effect as forma and buying 9-10 inches device won't be ncsry... |
||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#43 |
Guru
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 767
Karma: 10000000
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Somewhere in Time
Device: Forma, iPad Mini
|
But the previous generations will never see a current OS release.
Amazon and Kobo and Apple and Google make money selling content. Readers and phones and tablets are the packaging used to deliver that content. Keeping them up to date keeps existing customers buying more product. Onyx, Fiio and other hardware manufacturers across the board make money selling hardware. They don't have content stores, and keeping old products up to date generates no revenue so they largely don't bother once a model goes out of production. If you're okay with this then you do you, but be aware that buying these products is a short term dead end. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#44 | |
Guru
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 921
Karma: 12671918
Join Date: Jul 2017
Device: Boox Nova 2
|
Quote:
Considering that most book reader apps are perfectly usable on an ancient version of Android like 4.4 from 2013 and most new android features are near useless on an eInk, non-phone device, I'm not sure how big an issue it really is. Not every feature hits the older Kobos or Kindles either. My Kobo Aura One never got Dropbox support for example, that's only reserved for new Forma so far. Older Kindles like the Kindle 2 can't handle AZW3 books cutting them off from stuff like manga, later Kindles didn't get KFX and the better typography, etc. They make sure most books work in some form or another on most devices but older devices don't get a lot of newer features either. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#45 |
Zealot
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 149
Karma: 4719872
Join Date: Jul 2019
Device: Hibreak Pro, Mira, Paperlike Colour
|
Android OS version isn't that important for reading, and the latest devices shouldn't have issues for reading for many, many years. The batteries are more likely to go first. I can see why people get upset by Boox not upgrading older devices to new Android versions, but in practice it has very little effect on reading.
An example of manga on the Nova 2: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0IGgZLKuGM5JIW It looks great. All the screens of common modern readers are from the same company and share the same spec for their size. Boox has more user control over rendering than most. Trying to match the screen to source resolution isn't the right approach IMO. For manga the source is typically 7", blowing it up to 10" isn't going to see any improvement unless you're doing it because your eyesight is poor. If you do have good eyesight you'll notice the degradation in quality. 6/7/8" is fine for manga and will be 300DPI on a good device. On modern 10" readers the DPI is 227. Many manga sources are poor quality, you'll enjoy them more on a 6". High quality sources will look great on 7/8". I have a 13" Max 3 with the highest resolution e-ink screen, manga scanned at a high resolution looks terrible on it because the source physical size is so much smaller (but it's ideal for graphic novels). Last edited by rowe; 10-17-2020 at 03:51 AM. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
A Good E-Reader for Manga? | supermilleno | Which one should I buy? | 6 | 08-22-2016 04:08 PM |
Looking for a Good Manga E-reader | jakedj93 | Which one should I buy? | 11 | 12-17-2013 03:07 AM |
I need a good reader ONLY for manga... | Tanyu22 | Which one should I buy? | 21 | 09-02-2011 02:20 AM |
Good reader for Manga | errtu | Which one should I buy? | 10 | 08-02-2011 08:39 AM |
How to put manga or other pictures on the Sony Reader and have them look good too | etatoby | Sony Reader | 14 | 03-29-2007 04:36 PM |