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Old 11-01-2019, 06:55 PM   #31
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I have a workaround. That's to forget Linux and stick with Windows. I prefer not to have to tryt o play games to get the software I want to use to work and it does. It just works.
I can't "stick with Windows" since I haven't used it in 12 to 13 years. And, unfortunately, Windows doesn't always "just work." Every time my wife's laptop updates I have to fix it so or won't continually BSOD (video driver issue). Her desktop has been pretty stable, but one time a botched automatic update made it unbootable. I spent a week trying to get it fixed (tried about 40 "fixes") — finally used a live Linux USB to back up her data and then rebuilt it from scratch.

Stability is more important to me than not having to work around proprietary Windows software applications.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:35 PM   #32
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[QUOTE=gldnbrwncouches;3910990]Another Linux user here, I use Wine to manage my ADE install on Linux. /QUOTE]

Which distro u using?
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:53 PM   #33
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Which distro u using?
Mostly Fedora, but I've been working with Arch on my laptop, since having a rolling release was beneficial for it's newer hardware at the time, and I really like it. My wife's laptop runs Kubuntu, since she strongly prefers the KDE interface, and the Ubuntu LTS and package availability makes things easy to manage there. All three run ADE via Wine splendidly for use with our Kobo readers (Libra H2O and Forma) as well as our older Nooks. Windows hasn't booted on computer in our house for about a decade at this point.

Technically, I think we only use ADE for loading library books and the occasional book purchased from a store other than Kobo's. We had done it for years with our old Nooks, and old habits kinda die hard, even though Kobo has Overdrive integration built in One day, maybe we'll break the habit.
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Old 11-02-2019, 04:14 PM   #34
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I can't "stick with Windows" since I haven't used it in 12 to 13 years. And, unfortunately, Windows doesn't always "just work." Every time my wife's laptop updates I have to fix it so or won't continually BSOD (video driver issue). Her desktop has been pretty stable, but one time a botched automatic update made it unbootable. I spent a week trying to get it fixed (tried about 40 "fixes") — finally used a live Linux USB to back up her data and then rebuilt it from scratch.

Stability is more important to me than not having to work around proprietary Windows software applications.
I have never had a Windows Update cause Windows not to work. I've been using Windows since 3.1 and that's on a number of different computers. Here I have a desktop, laptop, and Surface Pro 2 all running Windows 10 1903.

I've never had a Windows Upgrade botch anything. I've never had to do a clean install of Windows because of problems with the existing Windows.

So for me, Windows just works.
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This was posted to a different thread, but it's very much appropriate to this thread,

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I have never had a Windows Update cause Windows not to work. I've been using Windows since 3.1 and that's on a number of different computers. Here I have a desktop, laptop, and Surface Pro 2 all running Windows 10 1903.
Well, it's good to know that someone has had consistent, trouble-free Windows upgrades. That gives me hope that unicorns are real too. Not my experience (or my wife's experience, though). Nor is that the experience of many Windows users worldwide — as any Google search on the subject will verify. Things like all documents being deleted...

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...2-caa4caa6d4e1

"Restart your computer three or four times, sometimes that will fix it."

Latest Windows 10 Update Problems and How to Fix Them...

https://www.maketecheasier.com/lates...date-problems/

There's thousands and thousands of "hits" for Windows issues after updates.

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I've never had a Windows Upgrade botch anything. I've never had to do a clean install of Windows because of problems with the existing Windows.

So for me, Windows just works.
Again, good to know. Not our experience at all. On the other hand, Linux has been rock solid for me for the past 12 or 13 years.
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Old 11-02-2019, 08:20 PM   #37
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And Linux has been a support nightmare for Kovid.
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From the point of view of a developer, maintaining a codebase that works across the different distros is harder than maintaining the macos/windows counterpart. Most developers end up choosing between official releases with bundled libraries or leaving official releases for win/mac and delegating the package for each distro maintainer.

From the point of view of an user, that doesn't matter. But remember if you find a bug on a specific distro talk to the package maintainer or try to reproduce on official releases, if available, before bothering software developers.

Regarding the 32bit shutdown on Catalina and the notarization of apps: apple is playing stupid games to force an IOSification of macos. They enabled gatekeeper and SIP before but they're not enforcing them, so the people can choose, for now.
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And Linux has been a support nightmare for Kovid.
I can understand that... but I'm a Linux user, not a Linux developer. But even a popular screenplay writing software (Final Draft) is now only available for Windows 10. The same with Mac software — there now seems to be a "cut-off" at version 10.12. Not that I don't appreciate what Kovid does, but if he quits developing Calibre for Linux tomorrow, I'm sure not going to drop Linux and go to Windows so I can use Calibre.

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Well, it's good to know that someone has had consistent, trouble-free Windows upgrades.
Windows XP, 7, and 10 have all committed suicide on me. XP suddenly thought another partition was C and then tried to "fix" itself by "finding" its files on D and failed. Windows 7 has done similar things. I love UUIDs and mount points so much. I can only hope Windows uses UUIDs as well these days.

For Windows 10 I don't even really know what happened except it wouldn't boot after updating. There's the Windows boot repair thing but that didn't work out. I suspect it had something to do with BIOS vs UEFI[1] but unfortunately you can't just boot a live CD and install a BIOS vs. EFI bootloader at will. I've done the latter plenty of times after installing Windows.

My Linux install has been running problem-free since 2011, 5 Debian versions ago. It Just Works™. Very refreshing.

[1] Windows 10 supports something older Windows doesn't: you can just stick the drive into another PC without having to run some kind of repair install. I was happy to discover this a few years back when I switched from an '09 motherboard to a '14 motherboard, but of course Windows was running in BIOS mode. This all went fine for about a year and a half, maybe two, so maybe BIOS vs. EFI isn't actually the cause but I don't know what else it could've been.
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From the point of view of a developer, maintaining a codebase that works across the different distros is harder than maintaining the macos/windows counterpart.
For a given value of works. There's seemingly no end to the (modern!) stuff I see that looks terrible on Windows <8/10 or on 10. Often it doesn't have too much trouble running I suppose.

Recently Windows 10 somehow got rid of some DLL half my programs depended on though…

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