I bought a Kobo Forma, a little hesitantly.

[MGlitch]

Honestly I find Koboys replies helpful.


They’re a great indication of the hyperbole that surrounds whatever device he’s commenting on without ever actually purchasing and/or seeing in real life.

It’s a good measure of the issues I can safely ignore since they are typically just other users who are overly sensitive to various things with a device which he then takes as gospel and spouts off about as if they were the doom and gloom of said device.

Granted this would likely be no different if he didn’t feel the need to repeatedly trash devices he has never actually even touched. But it’s almost fun having that guy who feels the need to crap all over things other people like while trying to mask it like he’s doing some public service.

I’ve mentioned elsewhere that he’s basically never said a good thing about Kobo to which he replied with a quote which he’d posted to a thread I’d started asking about the sleepcover, his quote was merely a link to someone else’s comments on it. Somehow this was aimed at disproving my comment about him not giving fair and balanced information on various kobo products. Note I had never said his posts were not helpful.

I’m also unsure as to why anyone engages with him anymore. It’s long since become obvious that he’s not interested in opposing viewpoints.

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

Honestly I find Koboys replies helpful.


They’re a great indication of the hyperbole that surrounds whatever device he’s commenting on without ever actually purchasing and/or seeing in real life.

It’s a good measure of the issues I can safely ignore since they are typically just other users who are overly sensitive to various things with a device which he then takes as gospel and spouts off about as if they were the doom and gloom of said device.

Granted this would likely be no different if he didn’t feel the need to repeatedly trash devices he has never actually even touched. But it’s almost fun having that guy who feels the need to crap all over things other people like while trying to mask it like he’s doing some public service.

I’ve mentioned elsewhere that he’s basically never said a good thing about Kobo to which he replied with a quote which he’d posted to a thread I’d started asking about the sleepcover, his quote was merely a link to someone else’s comments on it. Somehow this was aimed at disproving my comment about him not giving fair and balanced information on various kobo products. Note I had never said his posts were not helpful.

I’m also unsure as to why anyone engages with him anymore. It’s long since become obvious that he’s not interested in opposing viewpoints.

who get's to decide that other owners/user's opinions/views are over sensitive? now that does sound pretty condescending. is it you who get's to decide?

also please show me my recent or any negative comments i have made on the H2O2?

please feel free to point to any of my posts that have factual errors and i will gladly correct them?

any idea when the next obvious die hard member of the Kobo fan club will be along?

you engage because your obvious pro Kobo bias kicks in i suggest opening your closed mind occasionally it may help you somewhat to see the obvious quality control issues that still clearly plaque Kobo's recent releases. not including the H2O2.

btw please free to enlighten me on opposing viewpoints? which should be interesting to say the least.

best wishes koboy

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by koboy

no i'm telling you exactly what it says which is if i'm 100% satisfied/happy which translated = means that they work perfectly if i wasn't 100% satisfied/happy then i wouldn't keep whatever it was.

do you have any idea how many electrically devices that i own that work 100% perfectly? the list is endlessssss.

So, you will be getting rid of your three Kobo devices and the Kindle? There is no way they work 100% perfectly.

This is the problem with your statements. "100% satisfied", "100% perfectly". You are being far to absolute with the statements.

what's condescending about the obvious Kobo ereader lottery that factually exists?

Then tell me what was the purpose of the post? If you had just congratulated them on their purchase OK. But, you felt the need to add a meaningless extra statement that was no help to that person. Or anyone reading the thread. Overall, the post reads as condescending.

also i have never and never will call anyone a idiot so please don't misquote/put words into my mouth.

And here you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say that you called anyone an idiot.

i could easily point to some on here who's comment's (ALL) are 99.9% in the positive i don't jump on them/moan or comment on them unless they are factually wrong.

Is that a not very subtle reference to me? No, I better not say that as it would be putting words in your mouth.

But, I have no idea whether my posts are "(ALL) are 99.9% in the positive" (and either they are ALL or 99.9% Which?) My posts are intended to be directly helpful. Either asking for more information to work out what is wrong, posting an actual suggestion for how to solve a problem, or work around it. Or describing a known issue so that the poster can decide what to do. I don't tend to dwell on the negative once I understand it. There are plenty of people here that seem to love to do that (and that is not a subtle reference) and I try to leave them to it. Now and then I fail.

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by koboy

who get's to decide that other owners/user's opinions/views are over sensitive? now that does sound pretty condescending. is it you who get's to decide?

also please show me my recent or any negative comments i have made on the H2O2?

please feel free to point to any of my posts that have factual errors and i will gladly correct them?

any idea when the next obvious die hard member of the Kobo fan club will be along?

you engage because your obvious pro Kobo bias kicks in i suggest opening your closed mind occasionally it may help you somewhat to see the obvious quality control issues that still clearly plaque Kobo's recent releases. not including the H2O2.

btw please free to enlighten me on opposing viewpoints? which should be interesting to say the least.

best wishes koboy

I’m sorry I wasn’t posting to you in this thread.

Your posts are lopsided as mentioned and merely echo what you opt to from select reviews from users. Literally anything you’ve posted about the Forma should fall under that description.

You post without owning the device or even using it. But act as if your posts are purely factual. Ignoring the fact that you’re omitting anything anyone who owns the device has said if it doesn’t agree with your narrative.

So in closing your posts serve as a great guide post as to what to ignore on this forum. They seldom if ever add anything substantial or quantitative to the discussion and when you’re called out on this you fall back on calling people fan boys, claiming to post facts (when you actually post half truths), and insulting Kobo.

I engage occasionally in the hopes that you see what you’re actually doing as opposed to what you think you’re doing.

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

I’m sorry I wasn’t posting to you in this thread.

Your posts are lopsided as mentioned and merely echo what you opt to from select reviews from users. Literally anything you’ve posted about the Forma should fall under that description.

You post without owning the device or even using it. But act as if your posts are purely factual. Ignoring the fact that you’re omitting anything anyone who owns the device has said if it doesn’t agree with your narrative.

So in closing your posts serve as a great guide post as to what to ignore on this forum. They seldom if ever add anything substantial or quantitative to the discussion and when you’re called out on this you fall back on calling people fan boys, claiming to post facts (when you actually post half truths), and insulting Kobo.

I engage occasionally in the hopes that you see what you’re actually doing as opposed to what you think you’re doing.

all my as you and others call them negative comments do is provide anyone who is thinking of buying the KA1. Clara HD, or the Forma some of the issues they are likely to encounter if indeed they go ahead and buy any of them.

nowhere in any of my so called negative comments/posts do i say every single one of these devices suffers from these factual poor quality control issues which are easily found on this forum.

if my presence on this forum was purely to criticize Kobo ereaders then i'm afraid Kobo have to take responsibility for that for making it so easy for me to do.

anyone who as been on this forum from the release of the KA1 knows the various quality control issues each ereader as. i do not believe brushing these problems under the carpet is acceptable given that they still do clearly exist.

and i make no apologises for pointing them out even if i do do it often. if people don't like that fair enough that's up to them. but i ask you this would you/they bemoan my repetitive comments if you/they agreed with them? i think not.

i agree most of my comments are negative (not all) but that's only because the negatives i point out exist in those devices.

again please feel free to point out where i have posted half truths? and i will indeed correct them if they are.

best wishes koboy

[koboy]

Originally Posted by davidfor

So, you will be getting rid of your three Kobo devices and the Kindle? There is no way they work 100% perfectly.

This is the problem with your statements. "100% satisfied", "100% perfectly". You are being far to absolute with the statements.

Then tell me what was the purpose of the post? If you had just congratulated them on their purchase OK. But, you felt the need to add a meaningless extra statement that was no help to that person. Or anyone reading the thread. Overall, the post reads as condescending.

And here you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say that you called anyone an idiot.

Is that a not very subtle reference to me? No, I better not say that as it would be putting words in your mouth.

But, I have no idea whether my posts are "(ALL) are 99.9% in the positive" (and either they are ALL or 99.9% Which?) My posts are intended to be directly helpful. Either asking for more information to work out what is wrong, posting an actual suggestion for how to solve a problem, or work around it. Or describing a known issue so that the poster can decide what to do. I don't tend to dwell on the negative once I understand it. There are plenty of people here that seem to love to do that (and that is not a subtle reference) and I try to leave them to it. Now and then I fail.

paranoia not a good look i can think of half a dozen at least that the 99.9% positive comments refers to.

you need to read the person's comment who started this thread (post 1) in which they themselves clearly refer firstly to the lottery not me.

you suggested it might make them feel i think they are idiots you mentioned the word idiots first not me. please read the actually words i post and stop putting your own (WRONG) interruption on them.

and again all my electronic devices work 100% perfectly and not just ereaders. of course that might not be the case if i owned a KA1. Clara HD or a Forma.

best wishes koboy

[MGlitch]

I’m not going to look through your post history. Any post where you make a big deal over the faint grey bar would be an example.

You don’t provide any counter claims even when numerous exist. And again you don’t own or use any of the devices. Maybe it would be better and more helpful to leave it to those who do own them since you are literally incapable of giving any unique, hands on experience or feedback which might actually be useful.

You are the equivalent to the cyclist who trash talks cars for not handling like a bicycle but who has never driven a modern car.

[koboy]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Then why do you still have a Mini, a Touch and an Aura? They are all so different that it is impossible that all three actually work properly for you. And none of them did work out of the box. All needed updated firmware. And as the updates have gradually changed how these devices worked, they can't possibly be still working "as advertised". So you better send them back.

Face it, just like the rest of us, you are accepting devices that work "good enough for me". Only the definition of "good enough" is different for each of us.

why easy because they still all work 100% perfectly although if they didn't that would be fair enough seen as i've owned them all for years.

i rightly expect anything i buy (BRAND NEW) to work 100% correctly/perfectly if it doesn't then it's a piece of junk that get's taken/sent back.

best wishes koboy

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

I’m not going to look through your post history. Any post where you make a big deal over the faint grey bar would be an example.

You don’t provide any counter claims even when numerous exist. And again you don’t own or use any of the devices. Maybe it would be better and more helpful to leave it to those who do own them since you are literally incapable of giving any unique, hands on experience or feedback which might actually be useful.

You are the equivalent to the cyclist who trash talks cars for not handling like a bicycle but who has never driven a modern car.

ok let me make sure i've got this correct you want me to believe the postive comments but not the negatives comments is that right?

best wishes koboy

[MGlitch]

No. I’m pointing out you only repeat the negative comments not the positive ones

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

No. I’m pointing out you only repeat the negative comments not the positive ones

obviously because those are in my opinion the most important and also the ones that are most likely to be costly.

and again would you be moaning if i only posted positive comments? I THINK NOT.

thank you for letting your bias be known to those who may read this thread.

it certainly shows the poor state Kobo are in if a device is working perfectly/properly as it indeed should do is seen as a positive. sad days.

best wishes koboy

[MGlitch]

I’ve criticized Kobo before and I’ll do it again. And I’m open to people criticizing them over legitimate issues.

You however have literally just admitted to what you accused me of, your posts represent a clear and intentional bias which makes them useless for determining the quality of the product in question.

Though I know you won’t actually accept that. It’s okay at least part of you is aware of what you’re doing

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

I’ve criticized Kobo before and I’ll do it again. And I’m open to people criticizing them over legitimate issues.

You however have literally just admitted to what you accused me of, your posts represent a clear and intentional bias which makes them useless for determining the quality of the product in question.

Though I know you won’t actually accept that. It’s okay at least part of you is aware of what you’re doing

plenty of people on here post positive comments you included even i do occasionally regarding the current H202. but i've noticed some of those who post negative comments on here are in my opinion sometimes treated unfairly/made to feel they are exaggerating the issue/problem or as you politely put it they are supposedly over sensitive.

personally you or the other usual pro Kobo bias suspects imo or anyone else for that matter can disagree with me highlighting/pointing out the negatives over the positives as much as you like but it will only encourage me to post them even more often.

the main thing i hope my negative comments help to achieve is to get Kobo back to where they use to be which was having very good quality control rather than the poor one they still continue to have at the moment.

sooner some of those amongst you realise we all want the same thing the better and less hostile some of these comments should/would hopefully be.

best wishes koboy

[MGlitch]

Thank you for admitting your clear and intentional negative bias

have a good day MGlitch

[koboy]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

Thank you for admitting your clear and intentional negative bias

have a good day MGlitch

same to you when i see the positives clearly out way the negatives like i do with the H2O2 i will post them.

as always it's been a pleasure to converse/disagree with you on most things but hopefully not on all.

best wishes koboy