New iOS user: Question on audiobooks - Page 3

kyteflyer · 04-23-2018, 01:35 PM

Congrats! I have never heard of that app and am immediately going to investigate.

haertig · 04-23-2018, 03:08 PM

One other neat feature about "Book Mower", is that it is supposed to automatically set a bookmark when you stop/pause your listening. Not just remember where it is, but also, in addition, set a bookmark. That would be good if you fat-finger the controls and accidentally jump around to some place in the audiobook unintentionally. I have not done more than a few minutes testing with Book Mower, so I haven't yet tested out this feature. But it is documented, so I guess it works.

Note: There is also a sibling app, named "Bookmobile" by the same developer, which is like Book Mower but adds the capability to handle podcasts. Since I don't ever listen to those, I went for the more basic Book Mower instead.

DaleDe · 04-23-2018, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haertig

p.s. - I think this ordeal/learning experience has indeed convinced me that I am an Android person, not an iOS person. Just like I'm a Linux person and not a Windows person. I like control!

Give it a little more time. You might appreciate the fact that Apple keeps your OS up to the latest level so long as it will run on your hardware and provides updates on every app in the store when it is changed. But you are still in control since you can choose not to have the latest fixes.

Dale

haertig · 04-23-2018, 05:31 PM

I have indeed noticed that Apple wants me to upgrade to the newest iOS. My iPhone 5S is currently running iOS 10.something (yeah, I know the 5S is an old phone). I have to keep dismissing the dialogs that pop up trying to get me to move to 11.something. And Apple makes it hard to say "no, I don't want the update". You have to be careful to hunt down and choose the single correct option to say no, because there are other options to "do it at midnight" (something like that). You have to be on your toes to find "no".

I am saying "no" for now, until I research some more. I have read that iOS 11 really slows down the 5S phone. Horribly. And you can't revert back to a previous iOS version after you've upgraded. I wish there was a way to tell it "Stop bugging me about updates - I don't want to do them!" Maybe there is a way to do this, but I haven't found it yet. For now, I just have to put up with the persistent dialogs.

mariosipad · 04-23-2018, 05:46 PM

This article

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/ip...rsion-3641478/

might help you ....... I hope.

haertig · 04-23-2018, 06:09 PM

Thanks! I just followed the steps in that link. Hopefully that will be the end of the incessant popup wanting to upgrade iOS.

I have nothing against updating the OS, except if that update slows down or in some other way hampers the phone. The jury is still out on that question, so I'm not going to update just yet...

mariosipad · 04-23-2018, 06:40 PM

Well the jury has decided that is it ok to upgrade (in most cases).

Your iPhone/iPad should not slow down just from updating to a newer iOS version. Just the apps you may be using are sometimes more demanding. So you will have the impression that the upgrade slowed down your iOS device. An initioal slow down can be expected (indexing and other housekeeping) but after a few hours your iPhone should work as expected. (My iPhone 6s did.)

But if you should trust that jury ....... that's up to you (and me ;-) I haven't updated my iPad 3 to iOS 9 and decided to keep iOS 8 for some years now ..... )

Dylrob · 04-23-2018, 06:59 PM

IOS 11 definitely slowed down my old 6+, so it’d probably be even worse on a 5s.

DaleDe · 04-23-2018, 07:05 PM

OS11 is different from all previous OS revisions. It is a 64Bit only OS while the earlier ones would allow 64bit and 32bit apps. Thus do not update to OS11 if you still need to run 32bit apps but otherwise update since it is more efficient having only to deal with one kind of app.

Dale

DaleDe · 04-23-2018, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylrob

IOS 11 definitely slowed down my old 6+, so it’d probably be even worse on a 5s.

This is a known issue with old batteries. The OS will slow down a device with old batteries. The solution is to upgrade your battery and Apple is selling an upgrade dirt cheap right now to the end of the year. Take advantage of this!!!

Dale

haertig · 04-23-2018, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

This is a known issue with old batteries. The OS will slow down a device with old batteries.

I thought updating to the newer OS is what caused the slowdown - on purpose. But maybe now they have a newer new OS that undoes the slowdown caused by the previous new OS.

haertig · 04-23-2018, 07:49 PM

Looks like my 5S phone is not covered. From macworld:

Is my iPhone part of the battery replacement program?

If you have an iPhone 6 or later you are eligible to receive a battery as part of the program. The complete list of phones included are:

iPhone SE
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus

How do I know if my iPhone is one of the affected models?

If your phone has been sluggish over the past few months, your battery is likely the culprit. Back in iOS 10.2.1, Apple added a power-management feature to iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and iPhone SE that throttles the maximum performance to compensate for declining battery life.

I have an iPhone 5S hand-me-down, and it is running iOS 10.0.1 With typically light daily usage, occasionally medium usage (but no heavy duty streaming videos and such), I have to charge it every other day. I have no idea if this is considered good or bad.

Maybe they didn't include the 5S in the battery offer because they didn't think any respectable Apple owner would be so backwards as to still own one?

DaleDe · 04-23-2018, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haertig

I thought updating to the newer OS is what caused the slowdown - on purpose. But maybe now they have a newer new OS that undoes the slowdown caused by the previous new OS.

It did cause the slowdown for old batteries, not for good batteries. They claimed the slowdown prevented crashes with weak batteries, but the solution is to replace the batteries and the unit will run at full speed. There was a big issue in multimedia over this and Apple promised to replace any old batteries with new ones for a very good price, particularly when you consider labor is thrown in. Everyone should get the new batteries by December to start out with the best speed. This does not apply to iPads, BTW.

Dale

Dylrob · 04-23-2018, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

This is a known issue with old batteries. The OS will slow down a device with old batteries. The solution is to upgrade your battery and Apple is selling an upgrade dirt cheap right now to the end of the year. Take advantage of this!!!

Dale

Actually the voltage throttling feature was implemented in iOS 10. There was an additional drop in performance going from 10 to 11 that's unrelated to that.

Also, no need... for my 6+ was actually stolen! Oh well, I've got a shiny new 8+ now.

(The phone later showed up in a recycling plant half-way across the country. Apparently the thief threw it in one of those recycling kiosks for a tenner)

kyteflyer · 04-26-2018, 01:10 AM

FWIW: I've updated my old 5S and have not noticed any particular slowdown.

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04-23-2018, 01:35 PM	#31
kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,844 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone 12 Mini	Congrats! I have never heard of that app and am immediately going to investigate.

04-23-2018, 03:08 PM	#32
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	One other neat feature about "Book Mower", is that it is supposed to automatically set a bookmark when you stop/pause your listening. Not just remember where it is, but also, in addition, set a bookmark. That would be good if you fat-finger the controls and accidentally jump around to some place in the audiobook unintentionally. I have not done more than a few minutes testing with Book Mower, so I haven't yet tested out this feature. But it is documented, so I guess it works. Note: There is also a sibling app, named "Bookmobile" by the same developer, which is like Book Mower but adds the capability to handle podcasts. Since I don't ever listen to those, I went for the more basic Book Mower instead.

04-23-2018, 05:31 PM	#34
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	I have indeed noticed that Apple wants me to upgrade to the newest iOS. My iPhone 5S is currently running iOS 10.something (yeah, I know the 5S is an old phone). I have to keep dismissing the dialogs that pop up trying to get me to move to 11.something. And Apple makes it hard to say "no, I don't want the update". You have to be careful to hunt down and choose the single correct option to say no, because there are other options to "do it at midnight" (something like that). You have to be on your toes to find "no". I am saying "no" for now, until I research some more. I have read that iOS 11 really slows down the 5S phone. Horribly. And you can't revert back to a previous iOS version after you've upgraded. I wish there was a way to tell it "Stop bugging me about updates - I don't want to do them!" Maybe there is a way to do this, but I haven't found it yet. For now, I just have to put up with the persistent dialogs.

04-23-2018, 05:46 PM	#35
mariosipad Guru Posts: 725 Karma: 10738 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: iPad & iPhone with Marvin 2 + 3 & Kobo Glo HD	This article https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/ip...rsion-3641478/ might help you ....... I hope.

04-23-2018, 06:09 PM	#36
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	Thanks! I just followed the steps in that link. Hopefully that will be the end of the incessant popup wanting to upgrade iOS. I have nothing against updating the OS, except if that update slows down or in some other way hampers the phone. The jury is still out on that question, so I'm not going to update just yet...

04-23-2018, 06:40 PM	#37
mariosipad Guru Posts: 725 Karma: 10738 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: iPad & iPhone with Marvin 2 + 3 & Kobo Glo HD	Well the jury has decided that is it ok to upgrade (in most cases). Your iPhone/iPad should not slow down just from updating to a newer iOS version. Just the apps you may be using are sometimes more demanding. So you will have the impression that the upgrade slowed down your iOS device. An initioal slow down can be expected (indexing and other housekeeping) but after a few hours your iPhone should work as expected. (My iPhone 6s did.) But if you should trust that jury ....... that's up to you (and me ;-) I haven't updated my iPad 3 to iOS 9 and decided to keep iOS 8 for some years now ..... )

04-23-2018, 06:59 PM	#38
Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	IOS 11 definitely slowed down my old 6+, so it’d probably be even worse on a 5s.

04-23-2018, 07:05 PM	#39
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	OS11 is different from all previous OS revisions. It is a 64Bit only OS while the earlier ones would allow 64bit and 32bit apps. Thus do not update to OS11 if you still need to run 32bit apps but otherwise update since it is more efficient having only to deal with one kind of app. Dale

04-23-2018, 07:49 PM	#42
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,897 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	Looks like my 5S phone is not covered. From macworld: Is my iPhone part of the battery replacement program? If you have an iPhone 6 or later you are eligible to receive a battery as part of the program. The complete list of phones included are: iPhone SE iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus iPhone 6s iPhone 6s Plus iPhone 7 iPhone 7 Plus How do I know if my iPhone is one of the affected models? If your phone has been sluggish over the past few months, your battery is likely the culprit. Back in iOS 10.2.1, Apple added a power-management feature to iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and iPhone SE that throttles the maximum performance to compensate for declining battery life. I have an iPhone 5S hand-me-down, and it is running iOS 10.0.1 With typically light daily usage, occasionally medium usage (but no heavy duty streaming videos and such), I have to charge it every other day. I have no idea if this is considered good or bad. Maybe they didn't include the 5S in the battery offer because they didn't think any respectable Apple owner would be so backwards as to still own one?

04-26-2018, 01:10 AM	#45
kyteflyer Wizard Posts: 1,844 Karma: 9547754 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Newcastle, Australia Device: iPhone 12 Mini	FWIW: I've updated my old 5S and have not noticed any particular slowdown.

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