E-reader size comparison (with Video Link)

[Cinisajoy]

Without even playing the video,
The words on the video screen are
"Assembled here is the full range of ereader sizes".
So yes you did say it, not in your post but in your video.
Therefore it is a misrepresentation because FULL means all not just a select few.
Are you saying that all 6 inch ereaders are exactly the same size?

I will be honest with you. Had you linked to a blog rather than you tube, I would have considered this self-promotion or spam.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by The Inktelligent

Really? How so, exactly? Because I missed one 5 inch model you described (which I have never even heard of) and because I did not include a 6.8 or 7.8 inch display? Sorry, but you really don't have any ground to stand on here.

The reason there is a problem is that you misrepresent the available sizes by saying FULL SIZE RANGE meaning that it's all the sizes that are currently available. So yes, missing out on 6.8" and 5" (if currently in production) means your words in the video are wrong and misleading.

Now if you had said that this was not all the size and there were others not shown and listed the sizes not shown, that would be OK. But as you clearly make it out that the sizes shown are all there is, that's not good.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Ok, I am sorry that I took the words on your video to mean that you actually had the full range of ereaders when you only meant you had maybe one of each screen size.

Oh and PS: name calling is really not allowed here so I think you owe us an apology for calling some of trolls.

I didn't take it that that was all the Readers there were. I clearly got that the video was for showing different screen sizes. But what the video did was misrepresent all the shown screen sizes as all there are available at the time the video was made.

[Cinisajoy]

Hey Jon,
In a very quick comparison of just 6" kindle ereaders on the market as of right now, there are 4 different ereaders and all 4 of them are different sizes and weights.
They range from 5.6 by 4.8 inches all the way up to 6.7 by 4.6 inches. With respectively 6.3 by 4.5 and 6.4 by 4.5 inches in between.
Oh and for anyone curious the weights range from 4.6 oz to 7.6 oz.
So even just within one brand and size screen there is a pretty good size difference.
Actual chart.
https://www.amazon.com/b/?node=66697...pf_rd_i=Kindle

For fun went and looked at the Kobos.
All their 6" vary a bit in size too.
And yes the 5 inch mini is still listed.

[Dr. Drib]

It's unfortunate that those intermediate range sizes are not represented. Perhaps on his next video, he'll be a bit more careful.

[rkomar]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

It's unfortunate that those intermediate range sizes are not represented. Perhaps on his next video, he'll be a bit more careful.

Why don't you donate one of yours? Show that it's really important to you!

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by rkomar

Why don't you donate one of yours? Show that it's really important to you!

I don't do videos. He does, but not very well (on that one).

But if If DID do videos, mine would be about as bad as his. Actually, mine would be worse than his. Instead of the lounge music that he uses, I'd have romper room school music and the sound of speeding buses, along with crying and shouting children in the background. I'd also get confused about the size of the units and might even do worse than he did by including only two readers! I could even have preschool math drill voice-overs in the background: 1+1=2; 1+2=3; 1+3=4.



Maybe I SHOULD make that video!

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

I don't do videos. He does, but not very well (on that one).

But if If DID do videos, mine would be about as bad as his. Actually, mine would be worse than his. Instead of the lounge music that he uses, I'd have romper room school music and the sound of speeding buses, along with crying and shouting children in the background. I'd also get confused about the size of the units and might even do worse than he did by including only two readers! I could even have preschool math drill voice-overs in the background: 1+1=2; 1+2=3; 1+3=4.



Maybe I SHOULD make that video!

Don't forget the "Wheels on the bus", "The song that never ends" and Barney's theme song.
Your watchers would never forget you.

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Don't forget the "Wheels on the bus", "The song that never ends" and Barney's theme song.
Your watchers would never forget you.

I hear that all the time on "Peppa Pig."

[Orange Gelato]

Hi all again,

I was very very disappointed to come back to this thread and see that those were hazing the "Inktelligent" are still at it. If I had done this behaviour and someone told me, I would honestly hide my head in shame for maybe a day or two.
So very, very wrong that someguy decides to put in all the effort to make this and then only has nitpicking and extremly negative comments thrown back at him.
Let me start with the latest argument that "Inktelligent" posted his in comment and than "Cinisajoy" responded.

I agree that "Inktelligent" should check his video more carefully before saying that the "full range" comment does not exist. But, after saying this, I have to say that I believe most of his other comments are true and valid points. "Cinisajoy" user should be more careful if she is going to claim the outrage over literal comments on Inktelligent video...it does raise questions of if she really is literal and this is why she (I admit, I am making assumption here and apologies if gender is wrong) is annoyed or if she is just nitpicking for the point of doing so.

Personally, I find it hard to accept "JSWolf" and "Cinisajoy" arguments that the video is a "misrepresentation" and "misleading". It is true that, near the end of the video, the writing shown says that a full range of e-reader sizes from 6-13.3 inch is shown, but, personally, when I saw this I had the reaction that he means the full range of sizes he is showing in the video, because only then is he showing them all at the one time. While you can say that some people might find this misleading, I don't really think this is likely here. In his first post on this thread, "Inktelligent" said clearly that ths video was meant to give a "better idea", like he said in his most recent comment. Then, if you click on his link, the video description on you tube says that the video is "to give you a better understanding of some of the popular size ranges for e-readers!". Already, to me this is pretty clear that he is not promising to show every sizze of e-reader ever made, just some of the popular sizes...which he does do. Then, to top it off, writing on screen in "Inktelligent"s video says "What follows is a size comparison review of e-reader models from 6 inch to 13.3 inch screen size". This also seems very clear to me.

That makes this the third message "Inktelligent" has said about his video by the time you get to it and makes it very specific and clear that he is only showing a general screen size range. Severl other users have also said this in their comments that they found the message clear. It is only after all of this that you see the "full range" comment in the video. I think that if you are trying to argue that people are going to make serious mistakes in their understanding based on this video...you are trying too much to argue this...almost a little suspiciously hard to make this case.
Besides, I have not seen any other video like this one which compares such a broad range of e-reader sizes at one time. I think people would be better served by having one video at least to see the size difference than to to not have any video at all. So I do not think the "misrepresentation" arguement holds up at all!

Anyway, even if this was the concern, couldn't you mput it more nicely and in a civil way? First thing said, following the use of the word "ghastly" by a moderator which is also shocking, about this "concern" was the "JSWolf" user who says "This video is seriously wrong". As I said above, I do not see the evidence for this...I don't see how anybody could. As i said in my last post here, I suspect other reasons for use of such condeming words so early on by the "JSWolf" user in this case. Even, if the user really felt that way...could he say it in a more civil way? Forums are supposed to be about helping...user to user. Helping can, of course, include disagreements....but put in civil terms. What would be wrong about saying "I disagree with what you showed in this video because of...." Why start off so mean sounding and saying "seriously"? It isn't even true...by any measurement of what you think. At worst, the video is "incomplete" NOT "seriously wrong", especially given all the times he clearly states that this is meant as general video. After all, as i said before, he did not even have to do this but did so anyway, and i think, probably helped people in his actions. And, I think that the "Dr. Drib" moderator did not do anyone any service by rubber stamping what "JSWolf" said....it can be seen by others as a green light that the mean spirit of the comment is ok and is totaly right and so forth....which, just is not true.

This bring me to the last point. Dr. Drib...you are a moderator....but why would you say things like that if you did videos they would be "as bad as his" and that yours "would be worse than his"? Both things suggest to people that "Inktelligent" videos are so bad. Why do you think they are bad? Are they grainy or poorly made? What is your evidence for saying these things? I don't think they are at all bad, I actually have really liked them and have foud them to be very useful in learning about what some other e-reader devices can do. Even if I didn't think they were good videos, you as a moderator, while definitely having rights to your opinion on these things, have a responsibility to keep neutrality until the conversation or actions by one user jeopardize the friendly naature of the forum. I just can not figure out your actions here...they run against what a moderatorr should be doing. A good moderator should rise above the other users. That is why it is so sad to see one pile in on comments that, to my mind, just have little to no evidence to support them.

Inktelligent, if you even are bothering to come on this forum anymore, I still think you are generally right and correct in what you have said. I woulld have liked that others here had extended you the kindness and place of openess that a forum should be!

[JSWolf]

The problem is that the video makes it seems like what's shown is all there is. If Inktelligent had just acknowledged that he didn't show all sizes and would fix the video, all would be well. But because the video is incomplete, it cannot be used as a guideline for someone deciding what size Reader to get.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is that the video makes it seems like what's shown is all there is. If Inktelligent had just acknowledged that he didn't show all sizes and would fix the video, all would be well. But because the video is incomplete, it cannot be used as a guideline for someone deciding what size Reader to get.

[JSWolf]

Someone might see this video and get a 6" Reader when maybe a 6.8" Reader would have been preferred. It just doesn't give full information and anyone using it as a buying guide might not make the appropriate choice.

Orange Gelato, would you be annoyed if you missed out on what would have been best for you due to the video being incomplete? I know I would.

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is that the video makes it seems like what's shown is all there is. If Inktelligent had just acknowledged that he didn't show all sizes and would fix the video, all would be well. But because the video is incomplete, it cannot be used as a guideline for someone deciding what size Reader to get.

I agree with this assessment.

His video is incomplete and gives very little real information about these ebook readers. In that sense, it is "content free" of useful information. Of course, this is only my opinion, and someone else's opinion can certainly differ.

Plopping down a bunch of ebook readers onto a table and then putting one atop another one doesn't really suffice to give us any criteria for making informed decisions about buying one of them.

Again, this is my opinion, and you - Orange Gelato [and others] may certainly feel free to disagree with that opinion.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

Plopping down a bunch of ebook readers onto a table and then putting one atop another one doesn't really suffice to give us any criteria for making informed decisions about buying one of them.

I don't mind that as it is showing the different sizes. So once someone decides what size, he/she can then look into what Readers are available in that size and buy the one best suited. But as it doesn't show all the available sizes, it's not a good guide.