Need tips for managing tags - Page 3

BetterRed · 08-08-2016, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petzi

******* Controlled Vocabulary for Tag Generation ********

Reading those threads again I'm wondering if a plugin could be developed along the lines of Hindsights METAmachine for maintaining and assigning keyword hierarchies in controlled vocabularies - one that would include the ability to import vocabs from sources like LoC, BL, GNL, IPTC, Goodreads ... etc.

I have used METAmachine for classifying large image libraries in conjunction with a bespoke DAM application, it was excellent.

BR

petzi · 08-09-2016, 02:03 AM

Some keywords – Library of Congress Classification (LCC) and Dewey Decimal Classification (DDC) – can be downloaded via the Library Code Plugin by DaltonST. I use it sometime to get an idea for my own tagging.

What is GNL?

BetterRed · 08-09-2016, 03:53 AM

GNL popped up recently in context of a metadata source, it's the German National Library - I'm assuming it would have a downloadable cv, as some similar institutions have.

But the plugin I had in mind would allow users to define their own keyword hierarchies from scratch. As well as import them from external institutions, like national libraries, industry associations, etc . . . even this ==>> LG Inform Plus - Standards.

It's a blue sky idea

BR

Thasaidon · 08-09-2016, 04:28 AM

This such a good and useful thread I think it would be good idea to put a link to it in the Wiki or make it sticky.

MarjaE · 08-09-2016, 02:18 PM

I use my own tags. It's still a mess.

I use a genre column, and two tag columns, and still can't easily find the right tags. I need tags in order to find books, and in order to check if they're the right books.

For reference books, besides genre, I may list:

1. File format issues, such as if the source is in pdf, and my version is in djvu for smaller file size.

2-4. Certain topics it covers.

5. A dummy tag for "reference" to keep it part from the fiction.

6-8. If it is unreadable, oversized, and/or redundant.

9. And the source. (Internet Archive; Such-and-Such Library.)

For fiction, I may list:

1. File format issues.

2-4. Certain genres and themes, besides the main genre.

5. A dummy tag for "read" if I've already read it.

6-10. More genres and themes and also triggers.

11. And the source, again.

So it adds up.

I try to log works I'm using, or works I've looked over and haven't found useful, in Calibre. I sometimes remove the file, if it isn't worth keeping, but keep the record with the tags.

MarjaE · 08-27-2016, 10:09 PM

So for other people using many tags, does it work better to use more specific tags (e.g. "contemporary history," "Roman history, etc.") or more less-specific tags (e.g. "Roman" and "history" as separate tags)?

theducks · 08-27-2016, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarjaE

So for other people using many tags, does it work better to use more specific tags (e.g. "contemporary history," "Roman history, etc.") or more less-specific tags (e.g. "Roman" and "history" as separate tags)?

history.roman

AKA hierarchical tags

Think of it as a subset (branch) of History

08-09-2016, 03:53 AM	#33
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,721 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	GNL popped up recently in context of a metadata source, it's the German National Library - I'm assuming it would have a downloadable cv, as some similar institutions have. But the plugin I had in mind would allow users to define their own keyword hierarchies from scratch. As well as import them from external institutions, like national libraries, industry associations, etc . . . even this ==>> LG Inform Plus - Standards. It's a blue sky idea BR Last edited by BetterRed; 08-09-2016 at 04:02 AM.

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08-09-2016, 02:03 AM	#32
petzi Connoisseur Posts: 93 Karma: 13884 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Austria Device: Kindle Oasis, Amazon Fire 7 Tablet, iPad mini 4, iPhone XS	Some keywords – Library of Congress Classification (LCC) and Dewey Decimal Classification (DDC) – can be downloaded via the Library Code Plugin by DaltonST. I use it sometime to get an idea for my own tagging. What is GNL?

08-09-2016, 04:28 AM	#34
Thasaidon Hedge Wizard Posts: 802 Karma: 19999999 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK/Philippines Device: Kobo Touch, Nook Simple	This such a good and useful thread I think it would be good idea to put a link to it in the Wiki or make it sticky.

08-09-2016, 02:18 PM	#35
MarjaE Guru Posts: 937 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	I use my own tags. It's still a mess. I use a genre column, and two tag columns, and still can't easily find the right tags. I need tags in order to find books, and in order to check if they're the right books. For reference books, besides genre, I may list: 1. File format issues, such as if the source is in pdf, and my version is in djvu for smaller file size. 2-4. Certain topics it covers. 5. A dummy tag for "reference" to keep it part from the fiction. 6-8. If it is unreadable, oversized, and/or redundant. 9. And the source. (Internet Archive; Such-and-Such Library.) For fiction, I may list: 1. File format issues. 2-4. Certain genres and themes, besides the main genre. 5. A dummy tag for "read" if I've already read it. 6-10. More genres and themes and also triggers. 11. And the source, again. So it adds up. I try to log works I'm using, or works I've looked over and haven't found useful, in Calibre. I sometimes remove the file, if it isn't worth keeping, but keep the record with the tags.

08-27-2016, 10:09 PM	#36
MarjaE Guru Posts: 937 Karma: 53902736 Join Date: Jun 2015 Device: multiple	So for other people using many tags, does it work better to use more specific tags (e.g. "contemporary history," "Roman history, etc.") or more less-specific tags (e.g. "Roman" and "history" as separate tags)?

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