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Old 03-24-2016, 05:17 PM   #31
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Didn't the Onyx Boox Max review unit break down? So no review?
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:58 PM   #32
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Didn't the Onyx Boox Max review unit break down? So no review?
I don't know but good reviews need time. I would give him a few more days.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:28 PM   #33
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Didn't the Onyx Boox Max review unit break down? So no review?
It broke, yes.
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:10 PM   #34
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...The dual touch Max is on schedule for next year. ...
how reliable is that statement?
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:37 PM   #35
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Looking at many variants of Onyx M96 and N96 it is 100%. Onyx will need to bring this much sooner.
Look at Netronix successful Indigogo campaign.

What I like about this campaign that M.Kozlowski showed that buyers (Universities, larger law firms, orchestras or choirs) can talk directly to Netronix and order around 60-100 units directly.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:26 AM   #36
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That's why I don't have a BT keyboard.
@joblack, @nate,
I have used the T68 and the i86 with a bluetooth keyboard for many hundreds of hours (though in fact not typing continuously, only occasionally - it was for document editing, not creation from scratch): I am still to change the first set of batteries on the keyboard.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:50 AM   #37
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Well, i can only support what Rizla said about the use of an e ink reader as a device for writing text/ use as a secondary screen.

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So to make a long story short, it would be very useful for people like me, to see a video about the performance of the Onyx Boox Max in a2/quick mode with a keyboard (even a BT one with no lag). Remember for this kind of use quick refresh is more critical than best quality.
If it could also work as a secondary display (there are relevant android apps) that would be really great.
I have tried once A2 for text editing (the shipment firmware of the i86, 1.7.1, suffered from video update jitter), but the video becomes too messy. On the other hand, I find the responsiveness on normal "EPD update mode", in well behaving firmwares, adequate (subjective).
(BY THE WAY: there is a possibility that the current firmwares allow for more modes than "standard" and A2... I cannot check right now. They could be forced at least programmatically)

About the secondary display - I plan to test with VNC, but before I do I am trying to solve the basic matter of having some software that forces screen refresh the right way. I am "halfway through it" (currently trying to get a responsive icon in the statusbar. Little time...). Fact is, you can surely replicate your screen, but if you cannot force refresh when needed you will get some effect, "messy" as per above, that only reductively could be called "ghosting".

Amongst the ways to achieve that, I would do the same I do on my standard "Onyx tablet + Keyboard" setup: I call an instant refresh-forcer application through a keyboard shortcut such as [Command]+[R] ; the keyboard shortcut is created una tantum through the quicklaunch, or com.android.settings.quicklaunch.QuickLaunchSettin gs (sorry, I do not have the full command here).
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It broke, yes.
What broke down? I hope the final product won't have that problem.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:55 PM   #39
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I don't know. It simply stopped responding, and did not respond to a reboot (holding down the power button)
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:15 PM   #40
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What broke down? I hope the final product won't have that problem.
Hi, Don't worry. From description of Nate the connector of the screen has loosened during transportation. It has already happened to my pre-series sample after some drop tests. Actually, every other device with glass screen would not survive those tests. The problem of my Max after reconnecting of the screen was gone. In mass production Onyx decided to add a drop of glue to the connector to play it safe and to avoid this problem in the future. This way prepared samples are absolutely immune to such drop tests now.

I arranged pick up of my sample from Nate and will replace his testing device with a new (final) version of Max soon. So don't worry, I guess he can test and review it as independent tester in very near future. There is also new software version with some fixes for it.
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Very good news

@Booxtor, "some drop test" ???? What test is it ?
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Hi, Don't worry. From description of Nate the connector of the screen has loosened during transportation. It has already happened to my pre-series sample after some drop tests. Actually, every other device with glass screen would not survive those tests.

I arranged pick up of my sample from Nate and will replace his testing device with a new (final) version of Max soon. So don't worry, I guess he can test and review it as independent tester in very near future. There is also new software version with some fixes for it.
Holy sh*t. You did a drop test?

I'm always super careful with e-ink devices. Kudos to your bravery.
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@Booxtor, "some drop test" ???? What test is it ?
Those drop test are quite simple. Just let it fall several times from 1m and 1.5m to see how the housing will be affected by those falls. The floor was hardwood. Those tests are important to discover some weaknesses of the housing and if needed to make it more stable.
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Those drop test are quite simple. Just let it fall several times from 1m and 1.5m to see how the housing will be affected by those falls. The floor was hardwood. Those tests are important to discover some weaknesses of the housing and if needed to make it more stable.
Sure, effective tests

I'll can forgot all measures that I take to protect my M92
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Those drop test are quite simple. Just let it fall several times from 1m and 1.5m to see how the housing will be affected by those falls. The floor was hardwood. Those tests are important to discover some weaknesses of the housing and if needed to make it more stable.
Do you do these tests with all eink screens, or just the 13.3 because it has the plasic substrate?
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