KU Payment - Page 3

Josieb1 · 11-14-2015, 05:59 PM

I saw this posted today, I thought it was worth putting here. The October KU payout amount per page was 0.004809 of a cent.

rkomar · 11-14-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I saw this posted today, I thought it was worth putting here. The October KU payout amount per page was 0.004809 of a cent.

So, two cents for a 500 page book? That doesn't sound right.

AnemicOak · 11-14-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rkomar

So, two cents for a 500 page book? That doesn't sound right.

Try about $2.40 per book.

EDIT: Oops I see she said 0.004809 of a cent. Pretty sure she meant .004808 cents.

BearMountainBooks · 11-14-2015, 08:59 PM

Take off the "of a cent." It's about $.0048 --not quite half a cent per page. They calculate the page by a formula that takes into account fonts and so on. The rumor/speculation is that the payment will continue to go down until the average book is paying out at about 1.30 per book (These are guesses based on past payouts and on where the stars point to Amazon breaking even or making money off the subscription service. But it's all a guess). The only thing not a guess is that the payment trend has been down. VERY, VERY slowly, but down.

rkomar · 11-14-2015, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Try about $2.40 per book.

EDIT: Oops I see she said 0.004809 of a cent. Pretty sure she meant .004808 cents.

That's still about two cents. 0.004809 dollars per page makes more sense, which would be two and a half dollars for a 500 page book.

Edit: like BearMountainBooks said.

Cinisajoy · 11-14-2015, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rkomar

That's still about two cents. 0.004809 dollars per page makes more sense, which would be two and a half dollars for a 500 page book.

Edit: like BearMountainBooks said.

It would be either .4 cents or .004 dollars for anyone being technical.

AnemicOak · 11-14-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rkomar

That's still about two cents. 0.004809 dollars per page makes more sense, which would be two and a half dollars for a 500 page book.

Edit: like BearMountainBooks said.

Yes, I worded it poorly.

John F · 11-15-2015, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BearMountainBooks

... It's about $.0048 --not quite half a ...

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

It would be either .4 cents or .004 dollars for anyone being technical.

If you're going to be "technical", 0.5 cents and 0.005 dollars would be a better expression.

joyfuldesigns · 11-20-2015, 06:56 PM

Has anyone else noticed their commissions dropping significantly by this change? Mine has plummeted.

BearMountainBooks · 11-20-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by joyfuldesigns

Has anyone else noticed their commissions dropping significantly by this change? Mine has plummeted.

You mean overall author earnings? I had 3 books in the program for a short time and yes, during that time, my earnings dropped on Amazon significantly. Other authors report the opposite. I don't know if it has to do with putting all your books in the program, time of year (more people read in the summer? Winter?) or some other factor(s). It was not a success for me, but other authors have said their books were "discovered" by readers by getting into the program. I had more borrows via SCRIBD on a monthly basis than I did while in Amazon's program.

I don't think it's genre dependent as there are authors in every genre having success with the program--and also those who have had no luck with it.

booklover6 · 11-21-2015, 10:15 AM

Do authors get paid by the page for Kindle Owner's Lending Library (the once a month Prime book) books, too? Or is the payment scheme different for KOLL books?

BearMountainBooks · 11-21-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

Do authors get paid by the page for Kindle Owner's Lending Library (the once a month Prime book) books, too? Or is the payment scheme different for KOLL books?

I had to go look, but KOLL is now under the same payment--we get paid only based on pages read. From the rules I read, if someone takes months to read it, we'd still get paid (because sometimes people get their KOLL and then don't get another one for several weeks/month).

I thought they had left the KOLL as borrow=paid, but apparently not. If they read it, we get paid. If they borrow and forget, we don't.

(Full disclosure: My books are now all out of select/exclusive with Amazon. The rules no longer affect me.)

Waylander · 11-25-2015, 07:34 AM

If I clicked through the KU book to the end on Kindle Cloud Reader, I guess that would mean the author would get paid for the whole book, as it's been read, while I could download and transfer via usb and leave my Kindle in airplane mode with a clear conscience?

BearMountainBooks · 11-25-2015, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylander

If I clicked through the KU book to the end on Kindle Cloud Reader, I guess that would mean the author would get paid for the whole book, as it's been read, while I could download and transfer via usb and leave my Kindle in airplane mode with a clear conscience?

You do have to click through each page. Just going to the end of the book doesn't register it as read. But essentially, you have the idea. If you never connect your Kindle to Amazon, that is the only way the author would get paid!

booklover6 · 11-25-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Waylander

If I clicked through the KU book to the end on Kindle Cloud Reader, I guess that would mean the author would get paid for the whole book, as it's been read, while I could download and transfer via usb and leave my Kindle in airplane mode with a clear conscience?

I hope so, because that's how I do it with my once a month free book.

Although I usually do the click through on my Fire HD6

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11-14-2015, 05:59 PM	#31
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,086 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2	I saw this posted today, I thought it was worth putting here. The October KU payout amount per page was 0.004809 of a cent.

11-14-2015, 08:59 PM	#34
BearMountainBooks Maria Schneider Posts: 3,746 Karma: 26439330 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Device: 3g Kindle Keyboard	Take off the "of a cent." It's about $.0048 --not quite half a cent per page. They calculate the page by a formula that takes into account fonts and so on. The rumor/speculation is that the payment will continue to go down until the average book is paying out at about 1.30 per book (These are guesses based on past payouts and on where the stars point to Amazon breaking even or making money off the subscription service. But it's all a guess). The only thing not a guess is that the payment trend has been down. VERY, VERY slowly, but down.

11-20-2015, 06:56 PM	#39
joyfuldesigns Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Bellevue, WA Device: non	Has anyone else noticed their commissions dropping significantly by this change? Mine has plummeted.

11-21-2015, 10:15 AM	#41
booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	Do authors get paid by the page for Kindle Owner's Lending Library (the once a month Prime book) books, too? Or is the payment scheme different for KOLL books?

11-25-2015, 07:34 AM	#43
Waylander Guru Posts: 667 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB, Kindle Paperwhite 6, Kobo Clara,	If I clicked through the KU book to the end on Kindle Cloud Reader, I guess that would mean the author would get paid for the whole book, as it's been read, while I could download and transfer via usb and leave my Kindle in airplane mode with a clear conscience?

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