UK Right to Personal Copy Over-turned? - Page 3

drjenkins · 06-24-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

What ever happened to INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY?

In the US only people are innocent until proven guilty. Property, including cars, cash and jewelry is considered guilty until proven innocent. The police can seize property under the suspicion that it could possibly have come from some criminal activity or another. No criminal activity must be proven, or even specified.

So it is not a great leap from there to say that media is presumed guilty of some form of infringement, or another, and levy a fine against it.

pdurrant · 06-24-2015, 09:40 AM

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tweety · 06-25-2015, 05:30 PM

It's quite simple only by media containing something, so no tax.
Then erase the something and hey presto...

pdurrant · 06-26-2015, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tweety

It's quite simple only by media containing something, so no tax.
Then erase the something and hey presto...

Hmm... yes, if the tax is on blank media, just fill it up with Gutenberg texts before selling it.

Of course, that only works with re-writable media!

eschwartz · 06-26-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Of course, that only works with re-writable media!

non-rewritable media is so last year. Possibly even earlier.

HarryT · 06-26-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

non-rewritable media is so last year. Possibly even earlier.

I still buy virtually all my music on distinctly non-rewritable CDs

. The reason, in case you're wondering, is because I buy almost exclusively classical music, and the paper booklets that come in the CD case have invaluable information. Apple sometimes give you a downloadable version of the booklet if you buy music as a download; Amazon never seem to do so. Hence my preference to buy the CD.

latepaul · 06-26-2015, 01:26 PM

I can't think of much content that gets sold on re-writeable media any more. The occasional promotional/fund-raising item such as a branded USB stick pre-loaded with an artist's new album or a back catalog of a podcast - but not much else. Everything is either fixed media - BluRay, DVD, or download/stream.

Come to that the only content sold on re-writable media I remember was cassette tapes - with the judicious application of a little sellotape. My dad used to have a reel to reel tape player and had some pre-recorded reels - I think they could be taped over but I'm not really sure.

eschwartz · 06-26-2015, 01:35 PM

Harry, shame on you for being so old-fashioned!

OK, seriously.

Why don't they give you that information?

eschwartz · 06-26-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by latepaul

I can't think of much content that gets sold on re-writeable media any more. The occasional promotional/fund-raising item such as a branded USB stick pre-loaded with an artist's new album or a back catalog of a podcast - but not much else. Everything is either fixed media - BluRay, DVD, or download/stream.

Come to that the only content sold on re-writable media I remember was cassette tapes - with the judicious application of a little sellotape. My dad used to have a reel to reel tape player and had some pre-recorded reels - I think they could be taped over but I'm not really sure.

Well, obviously -- everything should be a digital download!

HarryT · 06-26-2015, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

Harry, shame on you for being so old-fashioned!

OK, seriously.

Why don't they give you that information?

I have absolutely no idea. Perhaps digital downloads of music are more geared up for people who buy individual tracks, rather than entire albums? If you buy something like an opera CD set, though, the booklet is pretty essential, because it has the story of the opera, and generally contains the libretto (the "words"), too.

Turtle91 · 06-26-2015, 01:51 PM

Is that what libretto means!?! lol....I always just called 'em "the words"....

Seriously though, I would think in today's google/wiki environment it should be possible to find that info.

HarryT · 06-26-2015, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtle91

Is that what libretto means!?! lol....I always just called 'em "the words"....

"Libretto" literally means "little book" (in Italian). Yes, a libretto is "the words" for an opera.

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06-24-2015, 09:40 AM	#32
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 74,459 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Moderator Notice Discussion of the US consfiscation laws definitely belongs in P&R. Non-ebook related discussion will be deleted without notice.

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tweety Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 2016606 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Kindle Scribe	It's quite simple only by media containing something, so no tax. Then erase the something and hey presto...

06-26-2015, 01:26 PM	#37
latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,270 Karma: 10468300 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	I can't think of much content that gets sold on re-writeable media any more. The occasional promotional/fund-raising item such as a branded USB stick pre-loaded with an artist's new album or a back catalog of a podcast - but not much else. Everything is either fixed media - BluRay, DVD, or download/stream. Come to that the only content sold on re-writable media I remember was cassette tapes - with the judicious application of a little sellotape. My dad used to have a reel to reel tape player and had some pre-recorded reels - I think they could be taped over but I'm not really sure.

06-26-2015, 01:35 PM	#38
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Harry, shame on you for being so old-fashioned! OK, seriously. Why don't they give you that information?

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Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,397 Karma: 20212733 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 15/11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	Is that what libretto means!?! lol....I always just called 'em "the words".... Seriously though, I would think in today's google/wiki environment it should be possible to find that info.

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