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Old 10-31-2014, 02:45 PM   #31
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I really liked the H20. Most of the books I planned to buy from Kobo, or if I had Kindle buy from Amizon. But also wanted a reader for local library use. We are also prohibited from discussing transcoding copyright protected material. I simply wanted the option to buy books where ever I wanted and convert them but ran into a bug with the first attempt.

With reluctance I'm sending back the H20. Most of the books I read would fit inside the screen but some don't. I happen to like the landscape mode and could care less about page turn buttons. I'm going to try the Voyage again in a month or so because I liked the landscape view and the margins were all fine. I don't want to hack it patch it etc.
As long as you have the H20, you could give Koreader a shot. It works with landscape. (Maybe Coolreader also does? Paging Ken... )

If you like the screen, etc. that is....
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:02 PM   #32
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For a bit of perspective for other new and prospective Kobo owners. I am coming from a Kindle to an H2O and already managed all my ebooks in Calibre. It was surprisingly simple to output my existing library to epub and kepub format for use in my new Kobo. Any questions I ran into were just a Google search away from being quickly answered.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:41 PM   #33
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As long as you have the H20, you could give Koreader a shot. It works with landscape. (Maybe Coolreader also does? Paging Ken... )

If you like the screen, etc. that is....
Yes. I'm glad I read this again. I was just about to go out the door to ship it back. If I could just read in landscape.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:42 PM   #34
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For a bit of perspective for other new and prospective Kobo owners. I am coming from a Kindle to an H2O and already managed all my ebooks in Calibre. It was surprisingly simple to output my existing library to epub and kepub format for use in my new Kobo. Any questions I ran into were just a Google search away from being quickly answered.
I'm glad you had more luck with yours. As I said I only attempted two books and it was only the kepub format. In fact that's why I posted this thread to get others experience.

Although I don't appreciate some of the snide remarks. As even installing a patch can cause issues when it updates. Just saying because one person had some issues no need to be so defensive. Bugs get fixed.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:51 PM   #35
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:58 PM   #36
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Thanks for the suggestion on the koreader but I simply don't have time right now to mess around with the ereader. It makes me wonder why landscape view isn't included? I'll just wait a while and reconsider ordering another when things are more ironed out. Thanks anyway. I didn't realize my post would elicit such a negative reaction as I put some effort into providing some basic start up strategies for file management.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:45 PM   #37
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Kobo have NEVER included Landscape mode in any of their eInk devices. I'm not even sure I have seen others ask for that feature.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:14 PM   #38
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I used landscape on my kindle. I went back to portrait, just personal preference, but with landscape there were more words per page. I could see how someone would want it. With the larger real estate of the Kobo, it might actually be nice. Definitely helps with pictures.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:28 PM   #39
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I wish the calibre plugin installation was bit more straightforward, as it's poorly described in the directions. I had to remove and reinstall everything--without unzipping the plugin, which I did the first time, and it was actually quite easy. If the instructions were clearer (the instructions/download issue is with the plugin, not Calibre which is about as easy to install as a program could be) there would be less headaches. Calibre is a nice program, I'll be donating to support it as I'll be using it a fair amount (My computer is a Mac).
Are you talking about the extended driver plugin? The instructions in the first post of it thread are:
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Open Preferences -> Plugins -> Get new plugins and install the 'Kobo Touch Extended' plugin. You may also download the attached zip file and install the plugin manually, then restart calibre as described in the Introduction to Plugins thread.
I'm not sure how that is "poorly described" or not straightforward. The KePub Output plugin uses the same text in case you are referring to it. Actually, I need to borrow it for my utilities plugin. For some reason I only have the manual steps.
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No, I'm talking about apprentice alf, the installation of which which is not exactly intuitive, and the directions are confusing and incomplete. Now that I have it figured out it's simple, but the instructions take a simple process and make it somewhat difficult. Any other plugin should be a piece of cake after that chore.

I'm almost totally tied into the Amazon ecosystem, and don't see that changing anytime soon. I just want to be able to read my Amazon purchases on an H20. It was almost a deal breaker for me getting the H20, after I gave up on the Voyage, but I got everything working with my Nook after some serious head scratching, and if it'll work with my Nook the H20 should do just fine. I realize directions cannot be posted here on how to install it, but it was a headache to figure out.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:13 AM   #41
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No, I'm talking about apprentice alf, the installation of which which is not exactly intuitive, and the directions are confusing and incomplete. Now that I have it figured out it's simple, but the instructions take a simple process and make it somewhat difficult. Any other plugin should be a piece of cake after that chore.
OK, that one. It's been a while since I've read the instructions for it. But even it should have been easy. It probably means they were written by a programmer. We are notoriously bad at writing documentation.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:47 AM   #42
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sigh... one more try then I am definitely out of this thread.

firstly:
John C: "Thought I would cover some basic set up for the H20 to help other people get started. "
IMHO< folks who are seemingly incapable of tweaking + sideloading their own books successfully shoudl not be self qualifying themselves to give out advice, especially when said advice is scaremongering.

to write publicly,& thus to be saying the author(s) of plug in(s), "your plug in corrupts data & requires a factory reset to fix" is an insult, if you then wash your hands of any follow up troubleshooting or requests for evidence.
To advise others NOT to use said plugins because they risk the same result is scaremongering.

now, having got today's "personal attack" out of the way....

BASIC INSTRUCTIONS
1. To use the H2O as Kobo intended it to be used
a) switch on
b) follow on screen instructions
c) er, that's it

2. TO USE IT NOT AS KOBO INTENDED
e.g. to transcode formats, to customise margins, headers, footers; to redesign the home page, to force landscape mode....

WELCOME to the world of 101 options, with 101 solutions. There's not going to be a one size fits all for-dummies guide as there's so many things that can be done, some of which will only be of interest to a very small minority e.g. landscape mode; some of which are inherently complex as they involve patching other folks' code...

Having said that there's are a lot of very knowledgeable and helpful folks here, who do their best ( as unpaid volunteers) to try to figure out what a stuck poster is actually trying to achieve & then go out of their way to help them achieve that. Mostly they get thanks, sometimes they get ignored, sometimes they get insults... it takes all sorts....

For myself, I have had lots of quality help from this & other forums on same site- i try to give back in kind but less so if I hit negativity. it is difficult to help people who treat whatever's suggested as a criticism or as an insult to their intelligence.
Yes a beautifully cross referenced, illustrated and well maintained tweaking & twerking guide would be good, but the're no reward for anyone producing such, and there are legal niceties that have to be observed, even with "how can I convert protected format "A",which I own, into non protected format "B" ". The lawyers will tell you you don't actually own anything, you have a bought only a licence to view the bits in certain ways only, & not to manipulate them....
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:52 AM   #43
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I've not commented on this thread but as someone who also moved from a Kindle I totally agree with everything cybmole said.

I also have the 'said' plugins installed and they work perfectly.
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OK, that one. It's been a while since I've read the instructions for it. But even it should have been easy. It probably means they were written by a programmer. We are notoriously bad at writing documentation.
You're on target, the problem isn't the installation process itself, which is easy, it's the directions on which things need to be downloaded that's confusing. It's written as a five step process, when a single sentence would've sufficed, with more emphasis on what not to do. It reminds me of the old two ways to eat joke: you can take your fork directly to your mouth, or you can wrap your arm behind your neck and approach your mouth from the opposite side...

It's just that that particular plugin is the most critical one for many of us, be nice if there was a clearer guide for it. I get why there isn't but that doesn't decrease the frustration level any.
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It probably means they were written by a programmer. We are notoriously bad at writing documentation.
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