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Sure, but then again, no one was saying at that time that it's no big deal if Apple had a huge loss. It's entirely rational to have a short term loss, if you think the investment will lead to long term profits. But eventually, the investors expect to see a return on investment.
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But 20% more revenue is a massiv grow, especially for a 20 year old company. I think it is obvious that amazon has a long time strategy. After all, this internet business is not a mature market. And they are the biggest fish in it. I think as long as the market grows at this rate, it would be foolish to not get the biggest pie of it. For example they put much money in this ebook thing. They more or less created this new market. And by doing this (and no other player that really tried) they now dominate it and people talk even about a monopoly.
Of course not everyone is in the stock market with the same goals or expectations. But I think for amazon this strategy makes a lot of sense. It shows of strength, to act the way amazon does: focus on the long term health and sucess instead of creating short term profits to make quarterly reports more attractive to a special group of investors. |
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Amazon is buying Twitch for $970 million which explains their expected loss for the 4th quarter.
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Your reply to me has nothing to do with your original post or my reply. You have done this dozens of times and I am getting very tired of it. |
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If Amazon gets to a point where is has to make money, I suppose it could jettison whatever parts of its business lose money (this?) and thus goose profits for a couple years. |
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I view the things the analyst mentions in the WSJ article, the phone, the set-top box, streaming originals, as items that tie customers into the Amazon infrastructure, walled garden, and loyalty programs, just like the Kindle and Amazon Prime. Amazon knows that the customers who buy these things spend a lot more at Amazon, and if they have to spend a lot of money to get the infrastructure in place, it will pay back not just on the sales of these items. |
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If investors ever did get vociferous enough about a lack of profits then they wouldn't need to sell anything off either, just increase their margins by a tiny amount that wouldn't harm sales but would instantly result in a profit. Another thing to bear in mind with their focus on growth, they probably have one eye on alibaba which actually has a higher valuation than them and would presumably intend to expand further outward from its chinese base in time. |
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I have no interest in AT&T -- so, even if I had an interest in buying the Amazon Fire phone it would have gone nowhere. I don't understand why they didn't sell an unlocked phone.
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Yep. "Long Term Strategy" doesn't compute with a lot of myopic investors but, by now, Amazon investors should know what Bezos is like. Now, if the revenue had dropped by 20%, all of P Walker's doom and gloom might have actually gone somewhere.
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