Ahead of the curve...I think - Page 3

Marseille · 10-05-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kaufman

But this is an item that (if you are on this board) you will probably use a lot. Is it really that crazy to spend a little more on it.

It's certainly more expensive than other currently available ereaders, but given the use I am going to get out of it, I consider it dirt cheap based on the pleasure it is going to give me. Or the additional pleasure I expect to get over the cheaper models.

If you're on this board, you're also pretty likely to already have one or more ereading technologies at your disposal. It isn't simply will you get a voyage or will you get a crappy basic, but is it worth $200 to upgrade from something that may well make you quite happy already? Not everyone who might have upgraded if the device had been a better fit for them is in a place where they need to upgrade now. Some of us were just hoping we'd be a little more tempted to.

To answer your first question, relating to what value I see in the Voyage, I might actually think it was a decent value for me now if it came with 1) more storage sufficient to hold a modest music/audiobook/podcast selection or an sd slot and 2) a speaker. I very, very much enjoy listening to music while I read. The convenience of having that all on one device would be a bit of a tipping point for me. As is, there's room in the price for Amazon to discount, and because there are apparently plenty of folks willing to pay full price (the early adopter's fee), Amazon is going to have a very easy time discounting for the rest of us not too far down the road.

kaufman · 10-05-2014, 12:10 PM

All true, but I was responding to the "it's overpriced" crowd, rather than the "it's not enough of an improvement over what I have" crowd.

Barbara1955 · 10-05-2014, 04:14 PM

Well for me it being on a Fixed income... gone are the days I can say WTHeck just to buy a new toy!
On the other hand I Read 18 hours per day! So long battery life & storage is important. Speakers are important when reading Authors like Willow Rose LOL Light nice IF it doesn't get bright enough a piece of tape would fix that LOL

JimmyG · 11-07-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie1

When you get it and have a chance to check it out give a thought to my questions & get back to me! Thanks!

I love some one that gets one that also has a K3 to post pic of the 2. Hopefully I can see the differences in looks!

Well, Katie, it came a month early, and my first impression is: Why the big price?

The only Kindle I can compare it with is my Touch. Both are the 3g with special offers.

No sound.

Big plus for me, the front is completely flat; no button, no hard to clean, recessed screen.

The usb is on the bottom all by its lonesome. The power button is on the back, top right. It's round, 'bout a 1/4" diameter, almost flush, with a downward curve. Very easy to use. Big improvement over the Touch.

And that's all there is, usb and power.

It's narrower, shorter, thinner, lighter; all as advertized.

(I have to go to the store. I'll have more for you when I get back.)

JimmyG · 11-07-2014, 12:26 PM

Putting the Voyage (light on) next to the Touch, with both showing the same page of the same book, is night and day. My eyes love it. But I could have got that with the PW, right? The type is crisp and sharp.

I don't get the page-turning thing. If you're going to use it, there is only one way to hold the thing, I mean, with your right thumb resting on that line, you don't have a lot of options. For me, holding it pretty much the same way, it's easier with my thumb in the air and tapping the screen. IMHO much ado about not much.

The touch is much more responsive than on the Touch. The Touch will register a fly landing on the screen and ignore your finger.

I take it out of the box and plug in the usb. (I have an adapter I use.) It turns on (with the light) and wants to know my language, with English already selected, I tap OK. It goes to that screen with the progress bar and I wait as it makes its way across. I'm sorry I didn't take notes, but it asked me a couple of other things, and then showed a screen with the Amazon Prime pitch. There was a big button for the "free trial," and underneath it, in very small type with a right pointing triangle a no thanks choice. If that was a link, it didn't work, not with taps, swipes, nothing. And there were no other options, tapping the top, right, left of the screen did nothing. Neither did swiping. The only way to go on was to hit that free trial button, apparently. Well, no thanks, Amazon. So, I turned it off and back on.

Voilà. There was the home screen, with a bunch of my books already downloaded. But not the book I'm currently reading. I go to the Touch, turn on wireless and sync. Back to the Voyage, go to the cloud and get the book, open it, and get the copyright page. Menu, sync, "Sorry, there is no sync information."

I notice that it's not charging. The usb plug has pulled a little out of the kindle, I push it back in, still not charging, jiggle it till it's charging. Damn! Turn it off, set it on the desk, amber light's out. Jiggle it some more till it's back on. Leave it to complete charging (about an hour and a half.) That usb connector, sos as with my Touch. Haven't tried transferring a book from my laptop, but if that doesn't work it will have to go back. That's why I bought it.

Oh, well. That light is awful bright and even tho it's great it has to be eating juice. I go to settings to turn on that business where it slowly dims as your eyes adjust.. Auto brightness as to be on. Turn that on.

LOL! What a crock. I get back to reading, the screen's as bright as ever. Five minutes later, the screen suddenly dims, so much so, that it takes my eyes a moment to adjust. About the time they do, the screen gets bright again. And this routine repeats about every five minutes. Turn that business off.

So now I'm on auto brightness, at night in a lighted room. The ambient light is not changing. But the Voyage light is. Not as obviously and annoyingly as before, but still changing. As long as it doesn't burn through the charge to quickly, I can live with it.

One very annoying thing that I don't have with the Touch, also 3g special offers. When you turn on the Voyage, it doesn't go to your book but to a page that you have to "swipe to unlock." Anyone know of a way to get rid of this silliness?

Oh, and you don't turn wireless off and on. To turn it off, you turn Airplane Mode on, and vice versa.

DuckieTigger · 11-07-2014, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyG

One very annoying thing that I don't have with the Touch, also 3g special offers. When you turn on the Voyage, it doesn't go to your book but to a page that you have to "swipe to unlock." Anyone know of a way to get rid of this silliness?

That is Amazon's new way to make the SO a lot less appealing. Before (believe even PW) when you use the power button, it bypasses the ad and goes to the book. On the PW with SO you only have to swipe when using the auto wake feature. I suppose too many cheating Amazon out of ad-revenue that they go the extra mile. You can PAY($20 I think) to remove the ads - only way to get rid of the sillyness.

JimmyG · 11-07-2014, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

That is Amazon's new way to make the SO a lot less appealing. Before (believe even PW) when you use the power button, it bypasses the ad and goes to the book. On the PW with SO you only have to swipe when using the auto wake feature. I suppose too many cheating Amazon out of ad-revenue that they go the extra mile. You can PAY($20 I think) to remove the ads - only way to get rid of the sillyness.

Guess I'm stuck, cuz every now and then I buy a book from those ads. But Amazon should pay more attention to what I read. Bout a month ago, I was looking for a new bike. Every where I went (web) I saw ads for bikes. Amazon's SO's don't seem to be tailored for me.

JimmyG · 01-27-2015, 11:45 AM

Well, the ads went from books to Foster Grant glasses, women's fashions, and other assorted junk that I have no interest in, and that "swipe to unlock" just infuriated me so I coughed up the $20 to get rid of it. Here's how you do it: unsubscribe special offeres

JimmyG · 01-27-2015, 03:56 PM

What a nightmare. I thought I was free of the ads, but when I turned airplane mode back on, the ads came back. Sent an email to Amazon and got a long one back, the gist of which was "Please, call." I hate doing this kind of thing over the phone, so I opted for chat instead. Good thing. I was on chat for three hours with two people before I finally got the thing resolved. And the solution was a lobotomy. After changing some settings, doing a restart, unregistering and reregistering, and on, and on, they finally decided my only option was to do a complete reset; which left me with a brand new unregistered voyage with no content.

11-07-2014, 12:26 PM	#35
JimmyG Zealot Posts: 119 Karma: 28454 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Device: Kindle Touch, Voyage	Putting the Voyage (light on) next to the Touch, with both showing the same page of the same book, is night and day. My eyes love it. But I could have got that with the PW, right? The type is crisp and sharp. I don't get the page-turning thing. If you're going to use it, there is only one way to hold the thing, I mean, with your right thumb resting on that line, you don't have a lot of options. For me, holding it pretty much the same way, it's easier with my thumb in the air and tapping the screen. IMHO much ado about not much. The touch is much more responsive than on the Touch. The Touch will register a fly landing on the screen and ignore your finger. I take it out of the box and plug in the usb. (I have an adapter I use.) It turns on (with the light) and wants to know my language, with English already selected, I tap OK. It goes to that screen with the progress bar and I wait as it makes its way across. I'm sorry I didn't take notes, but it asked me a couple of other things, and then showed a screen with the Amazon Prime pitch. There was a big button for the "free trial," and underneath it, in very small type with a right pointing triangle a no thanks choice. If that was a link, it didn't work, not with taps, swipes, nothing. And there were no other options, tapping the top, right, left of the screen did nothing. Neither did swiping. The only way to go on was to hit that free trial button, apparently. Well, no thanks, Amazon. So, I turned it off and back on. Voilà. There was the home screen, with a bunch of my books already downloaded. But not the book I'm currently reading. I go to the Touch, turn on wireless and sync. Back to the Voyage, go to the cloud and get the book, open it, and get the copyright page. Menu, sync, "Sorry, there is no sync information." I notice that it's not charging. The usb plug has pulled a little out of the kindle, I push it back in, still not charging, jiggle it till it's charging. Damn! Turn it off, set it on the desk, amber light's out. Jiggle it some more till it's back on. Leave it to complete charging (about an hour and a half.) That usb connector, sos as with my Touch. Haven't tried transferring a book from my laptop, but if that doesn't work it will have to go back. That's why I bought it. Oh, well. That light is awful bright and even tho it's great it has to be eating juice. I go to settings to turn on that business where it slowly dims as your eyes adjust.. Auto brightness as to be on. Turn that on. LOL! What a crock. I get back to reading, the screen's as bright as ever. Five minutes later, the screen suddenly dims, so much so, that it takes my eyes a moment to adjust. About the time they do, the screen gets bright again. And this routine repeats about every five minutes. Turn that business off. So now I'm on auto brightness, at night in a lighted room. The ambient light is not changing. But the Voyage light is. Not as obviously and annoyingly as before, but still changing. As long as it doesn't burn through the charge to quickly, I can live with it. One very annoying thing that I don't have with the Touch, also 3g special offers. When you turn on the Voyage, it doesn't go to your book but to a page that you have to "swipe to unlock." Anyone know of a way to get rid of this silliness? Oh, and you don't turn wireless off and on. To turn it off, you turn Airplane Mode on, and vice versa. Last edited by JimmyG; 11-07-2014 at 12:50 PM. Reason: add a thought

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kaufman Calibre Companion Fanatic Posts: 873 Karma: 1088610 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Galaxy Note 4, Kindle Voyage	All true, but I was responding to the "it's overpriced" crowd, rather than the "it's not enough of an improvement over what I have" crowd.

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Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Well for me it being on a Fixed income... gone are the days I can say WTHeck just to buy a new toy! On the other hand I Read 18 hours per day! So long battery life & storage is important. Speakers are important when reading Authors like Willow Rose LOL Light nice IF it doesn't get bright enough a piece of tape would fix that LOL

01-27-2015, 11:45 AM	#38
JimmyG Zealot Posts: 119 Karma: 28454 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Device: Kindle Touch, Voyage	Well, the ads went from books to Foster Grant glasses, women's fashions, and other assorted junk that I have no interest in, and that "swipe to unlock" just infuriated me so I coughed up the $20 to get rid of it. Here's how you do it: unsubscribe special offeres

01-27-2015, 03:56 PM	#39
JimmyG Zealot Posts: 119 Karma: 28454 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Yuma, AZ Device: Kindle Touch, Voyage	What a nightmare. I thought I was free of the ads, but when I turned airplane mode back on, the ads came back. Sent an email to Amazon and got a long one back, the gist of which was "Please, call." I hate doing this kind of thing over the phone, so I opted for chat instead. Good thing. I was on chat for three hours with two people before I finally got the thing resolved. And the solution was a lobotomy. After changing some settings, doing a restart, unregistering and reregistering, and on, and on, they finally decided my only option was to do a complete reset; which left me with a brand new unregistered voyage with no content.

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